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W - Not a fan of SVRA after Kcup with them at Mid-Ohio and from my experienc=
e with them prior - they appear to be about chasing $s=E2=80=A6</div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 27, 2023, at 05:56, Curt John=
ston via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><bl=
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<span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Great debate.&nb=
sp; I agree with Brian Dolan as well that we should have a mix of venues.&nb=
sp; Road America was certainly a destination track for me (2,200 miles from t=
he race shop), and Road Atlanta is on my bucket list too. But the trac=
k time was extremely limited. I think the KC race was only seven laps.=
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<span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">For 2023, my per=
sonal preference would have been to run the event with CSRG, the local club a=
t Sonoma Raceway. But their races are being held in the spring and fal=
l (March and Sept/Oct/Nov) which seems problematic for those making tows ove=
r the mountains passes. SVRA had the later date we needed being the la=
st weekend in April, plus they run at Laguna Seca the very next weekend.&nbs=
p; Note, we can not get a Kastner Cup race at Laguna with SVRA; the event is=
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<span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">I'll work with S=
VRA to maximize the track time for FOT at Sonoma and report out as soon as p=
ossible. I can tell you that if you can make the tow, you will not be d=
isappointed. Sonoma and Laguna Seca should be on your bucket list.&nbs=
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<span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">If we have enoug=
h folks attending both events, we should be able to organize some group acti=
vities in the wine country or Monterey during the weekdays. The tracks=
are only about two hours apart, and SVRA accommodates trailer storage for r=
acers running both events. If that's not enough, Sonoma Raceway held a=
n open testing day this year the Friday before the SVRA race.....seven hours=
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On 07/26/2023 10:20 AM PDT yellow04 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> w=
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We are not really looking for suggestions on specific events, we are try=
ing to get a feel for what kind of event the Triumph racers would prefer to r=
un future Kastner Cup events, big festival events or more intimate club even=
ts. Brian Dolan's reply was spot on, thanks Brian!
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Plus, if somebody feels strongly about us going to a specific (bucketlis=
t?) track, by all means toss that out here too! For example, I would love to=
get back to Road Atlanta.
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On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 12:06=E2=80=AFPM yellow04 via Fot <<a href=3D=
"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:
</div> This seems like a good time to get a feel for the kind of event w=
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<br>racers want to run our future Kastner Cups with. The two main optio=
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<br>are the smaller club events, or the big festival events.
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<br>Having competed at several Kastner Cup events, I can say there are m=
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<br>aspects of the weekend that are the same regardless of the type of=20=
<br>event. We get to meet and mingle with new racers and old friends, c=
heck=20
<br>out cars we don't typically run with, and get some insight on how o=
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<br>cars run against other Triumphs. All the great stuff that makes up t=
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<br>fun. However, the differences I see between the two types of events=
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<br>as follows:
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<br>Festival Events
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<br>Typically higher entrance fees.
<br>Less track time because the sanctioning body loads the schedule wit=
h a=20
<br>wide variety of race groups. With more cars, the higher the possibi=
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<br>of incidents, shortening sessions.
<br>Organizers have less negotiating power as there is little flexibili=
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<br>with the packed schedule.
<br>Possibly more exposure to the Marque and vintage racing in general f=
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<br>a wide variety of media.
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<br>Club Events
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<br>Typically lower entrance fees.
<br>More track time, more flexibility in negotiating perks like our own=
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<br>group, a second All Triumph (Reunion) Race, etc. Club events don't=20=
<br>usually have run groups of 5 year old former NASCAR racers being pi=
loted=20
<br>by guys with big checkbooks and limited experience.
<br>Limited media exposure compared to a major festival event, but good=
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<br>exposure from the normal sources.
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<br>I'll start. I'm all about driving the car. To me, track time is the=
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<br>biggest draw for an event. I also look at the value, the anticipate=
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<br>track miles raced vs the entry fees. Racing in front of 10,000 peop=
le is=20
<br>all fine and good, but not a draw for me at all. Many of my racer=20=
<br>friends share this general opinion with me, but we can't ignore the=
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<br>success of the 2023 event where we had strong numbers in general, a=
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<br>very strong numbers for racers with very long tows.
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<br>Can we get an idea of what type of events active racers would prefe=
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<br>future Kastner Cup events to be held? Festival events or Club event=
s?
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<br>While we are at it, is there any track somebody has a hankering to r=
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<br>at? That would be helpful information as well!
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<br>Cheers
<br>
<br>Henry Frye
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<br>On 2023-07-26 09:21, Ronnie Babbitt via Fot wrote:
<br>> I suppose it wouldn't have to be. However the Mitty is attende=
d very
<br>> well. The track has had many improvements since the KCup was l=
ast ran
<br>> at Road Atlanta.
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<br>> Ronnie
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<br>>> On Jul 25, 2023, at 11:21 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:chasgee22@=
gmail.com">chasgee22@gmail.com</a> wrote:
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<br>>> Would it have to be at the Mitty?
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<br>>> Chuck
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<br>>>> On Jul 25, 2023, at 9:26 PM, Ronnie Babbitt via Fot=20=
<br>>>> <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.te=
am.net</a>> wrote:
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<br>>>> Is there any consideration to bringing the KCUP back t=
o Road Atlanta during the Mitty.
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