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I meant to change the subject line of this post, sorry for the repeat.
We are not really looking for suggestions on specific events, we are
trying to get a feel for what kind of event the Triumph racers would
prefer to run future Kastner Cup events, big festival events or more
intimate club events. Brian Dolan's reply was spot on, thanks Brian!
Plus, if somebody feels strongly about us going to a specific
(bucketlist?) track, by all means toss that out here too! For example, I
would love to get back to Road Atlanta.
On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 12:06â?¯PM yellow04 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
wrote: This seems like a good time to get a feel for the kind of event
we
racers want to run our future Kastner Cups with. The two main options
are the smaller club events, or the big festival events.
Having competed at several Kastner Cup events, I can say there are many
aspects of the weekend that are the same regardless of the type of
event. We get to meet and mingle with new racers and old friends, check
out cars we don't typically run with, and get some insight on how our
cars run against other Triumphs. All the great stuff that makes up the
fun. However, the differences I see between the two types of events are
as follows:
Festival Events
Typically higher entrance fees.
Less track time because the sanctioning body loads the schedule with a
wide variety of race groups. With more cars, the higher the possibility
of incidents, shortening sessions.
Organizers have less negotiating power as there is little flexibility
with the packed schedule.
Possibly more exposure to the Marque and vintage racing in general from
a wide variety of media.
~
Club Events
Typically lower entrance fees.
More track time, more flexibility in negotiating perks like our own run
group, a second All Triumph (Reunion) Race, etc. Club events don't
usually have run groups of 5 year old former NASCAR racers being piloted
by guys with big checkbooks and limited experience.
Limited media exposure compared to a major festival event, but good
exposure from the normal sources.
~
I'll start. I'm all about driving the car. To me, track time is the
biggest draw for an event. I also look at the value, the anticipated
track miles raced vs the entry fees. Racing in front of 10,000 people is
all fine and good, but not a draw for me at all. Many of my racer
friends share this general opinion with me, but we can't ignore the
success of the 2023 event where we had strong numbers in general, and
very strong numbers for racers with very long tows.
Can we get an idea of what type of events active racers would prefer
future Kastner Cup events to be held? Festival events or Club events?
While we are at it, is there any track somebody has a hankering to run
at? That would be helpful information as well!
Cheers
Henry Frye
On 2023-07-26 09:21, Ronnie Babbitt via Fot wrote:
> I suppose it wouldn't have to be. However the Mitty is attended very
> well. The track has had many improvements since the KCup was last ran
> at Road Atlanta.
>
> Ronnie
>
>> On Jul 25, 2023, at 11:21 PM, chasgee22@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Would it have to be at the Mitty?
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>> On Jul 25, 2023, at 9:26 PM, Ronnie Babbitt via Fot
>>> <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there any consideration to bringing the KCUP back to Road Atlanta during
>>> the Mitty.
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rying to get a feel for what kind of event the Triumph racers would prefer =
to run future Kastner Cup events, big festival events or more intimate club=
events. Brian Dolan's reply was spot on, thanks Brian!</div>
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<div>Plus, if somebody feels strongly about us going to a specific (bucketl=
ist?) track, by all means toss that out here too! For example, I would love=
to get back to Road Atlanta.</div>
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<div class=3D"v1gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 12:06=E2=80=
=AFPM yellow04 via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nor=
eferrer">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</div>
This seems like a good time to get a feel for the kind of event we <br />ra=
cers want to run our future Kastner Cups with. The two main options <br />a=
re the smaller club events, or the big festival events.<br /><br />Having c=
ompeted at several Kastner Cup events, I can say there are many <br />aspec=
ts of the weekend that are the same regardless of the type of <br />event=
=2E We get to meet and mingle with new racers and old friends, check <br />=
out cars we don't typically run with, and get some insight on how our <br /=
>cars run against other Triumphs. All the great stuff that makes up the <br=
/>fun. However, the differences I see between the two types of events are =
<br />as follows:<br /><br />Festival Events<br /><br />Typically higher en=
trance fees.<br />Less track time because the sanctioning body loads the sc=
hedule with a <br />wide variety of race groups. With more cars, the higher=
the possibility <br />of incidents, shortening sessions.<br />Organizers h=
ave less negotiating power as there is little flexibility <br />with the pa=
cked schedule.<br />Possibly more exposure to the Marque and vintage racing=
in general from <br />a wide variety of media.<br /><br />~<br /><br />Clu=
b Events<br /><br />Typically lower entrance fees.<br />More track time, mo=
re flexibility in negotiating perks like our own run <br />group, a second =
All Triumph (Reunion) Race, etc. Club events don't <br />usually have run g=
roups of 5 year old former NASCAR racers being piloted <br />by guys with b=
ig checkbooks and limited experience.<br />Limited media exposure compared =
to a major festival event, but good <br />exposure from the normal sources=
=2E<br /><br />~<br /><br />I'll start. I'm all about driving the car. To m=
e, track time is the <br />biggest draw for an event. I also look at the va=
lue, the anticipated <br />track miles raced vs the entry fees. Racing in f=
ront of 10,000 people is <br />all fine and good, but not a draw for me at =
all. Many of my racer <br />friends share this general opinion with me, but=
we can't ignore the <br />success of the 2023 event where we had strong nu=
mbers in general, and <br />very strong numbers for racers with very long t=
ows.<br /><br />Can we get an idea of what type of events active racers wou=
ld prefer <br />future Kastner Cup events to be held? Festival events or Cl=
ub events?<br /><br />While we are at it, is there any track somebody has a=
hankering to run <br />at? That would be helpful information as well!<br /=
><br />Cheers<br /><br />Henry Frye<br /><br /><br />On 2023-07-26 09:21, R=
onnie Babbitt via Fot wrote:<br />> I suppose it wouldn't have to be. Ho=
wever the Mitty is attended very<br />> well. The track has had many imp=
rovements since the KCup was last ran<br />> at Road Atlanta.<br />> =
<br />> Ronnie<br />> <br />>> On Jul 25, 2023, at 11:21 PM, <a=
href=3D"mailto:chasgee22@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer">chasgee22@gmail.com=
</a> wrote:<br />>> <br />>> Would it have to be at the Mitty?<=
br />>> <br />>> Chuck<br />>> <br />>>> On Jul =
25, 2023, at 9:26 PM, Ronnie Babbitt via Fot <br />>>> <<a href=
=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer">fot@autox.team.net</a>>=
; wrote:<br />>>> <br />>>> Is there any consideration to=
bringing the KCUP back to Road Atlanta during the Mitty.<span style=3D"fon=
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