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Yes, I=E2=80=99ve had to do this on the early 6 blocks, for some reason =
the casting had changed in the later blocks, no clearance problem.
Charly Mitchel
TR6 #44
=20
From: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Erik Jacobsen via =
Fot
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2023 5:46 AM
To: John H. Hasty <jhasty@mhc-law.com>; Robert Lang =
<robertlangtr6@yahoo.com>
Cc: fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Connecting rod question
=20
Bob,
Yes, I also ran into the issue of the side of the MS rod hitting the =
bottom of the bore. Nothing like taking a grinder to a freshly honed =
block! As it turned out, I only needed to make about an 1/8" chamfer on =
one side. Car has been running well for a couple of race weekends so =
far. Even survived Henry Morrison racing it at RA! Just kidding, Henry =
was a huge help with sorting and set up. I also have the MS roods in my =
Sprite 1275 and in our TR3. Seem to be pretty bombproof, and the price =
point is hard to beat.
=20
Hope to see you all at the Cup in July!
Jake
=20
On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 07:24:26 AM CST, Robert Lang via Fot =
=20
=20
Hi - For TR6, the challenge is the bore being less than 3 inches. A lot =
of the aftermarket rod big ends won't fit down the bore. So, from this =
seat, the choices are limited. The Max SPeeding rods use 5/16" ARP 2000 =
rod bolts, so they will not fit into a stock bore, you MUST overbore by =
+.030 or more. At least that's what I recall. Most of us will go for a =
max. overbore to be legal, +.040 but there's most likely some motors out =
there that are more than .040 over... the point being that the larger =
than stock big end dimensions will work with those over-overbores. One =
potential "gotcha" for the H-beam rods is the side clearance to the =
bottom of the piston bore on one side is almost zero, so you have to =
relieve the bottom of the piston bore for clearance. This is no big =
deal, but it must be done. This is one area where the Carillo and Pauter =
has an advantage... one less "step" in the build process.
=20
I will also say that I built a motor a few years ago with the =
MaxSpeeding Rods and had them checked out and found them to be as others =
reported, dimensions spot on, and balanced and equal weight within less =
than 1 gram across the set. Actually, 5 rods were the same weight and =
one was about .5 grams heavier. I also saw a small variance in the small =
end bush and had to lightly hone 1 of the rods to get the wrist pin to =
fit properly. Honestly, the finish of the parts was impressive. I'll =
probably use them again. The biggest reason: when I bought that set, it =
was less expensive for a entire set than it would be to recondition and =
balance a set of stock rods.
=20
I don't have enough hours on that engine to address longevity, but I =
will say that at the time I bought the set from Max SPeeding, several =
FOTs also reported on or off list that they had good experience with =
them. I have seen zero reports to the contrary.
=20
Based on that experience, other than potential questions about the =
material composition of the rods, e.g. 4130 steel, I wouldn't steer =
anyone away from using these parts. And right now, I'll take new metal =
over stuff that was made when the earth was still cooling... anytime.
=20
Regards,
Bob Lang
=20
On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 11:26:14 PM EST, John H. Hasty via Fot =
=20
=20
Gosh guys, with the almost unlimited selection of racing rods for Ford =
and Chevy v8 monster engines at reasonable prices, why are you paying =
and praying for stock sized replicas?
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 25, 2023, at 8:42 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =
=EF=BB=BF=20
I=E2=80=99ve used the Pauter rods to good effect, too. They have proven =
very durable for me!
Scott (B.)
=20
From: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net =
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Connecting rod question
=20
Walt,
=20
I went with Pauter rods for the Spitfire due to the use of a larger rod =
bolt than Carillo.
=20
Marty Sukey posted some very nasty pictures of his Carillos and a rod =
bolt failure=E2=80=A6good enough for me.
=20
Not sure how it will apply to TR6 items but worth a look.
Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone
=20
On Jan 25, 2023, at 11:33 AM, Walt Hollowell via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =
=EF=BB=BF
I have built a few full race engines for my TR6 using MaxSpeeding =
connecting rods with acceptable results. For my next build I am =
considering Carrillo rods which run about $650 more than the MaxSpeeding =
rods.=20
Do and FOT members feel that the Carrillo rods are worth the extra bucks =
or should I be happy with the MaxSpeeding considering the affordability?
Thanks,
Walter Hollowell
Albuquerque, New Mexico
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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Yes, I=E2=80=99ve had to do =
this on the early 6 blocks, for some reason the casting had changed in =
the later blocks, no clearance problem.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Charly Mitchel<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>TR6 =
#44<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Fot =
<fot-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Erik Jacobsen via =
Fot<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 26, 2023 5:46 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
John H. Hasty <jhasty@mhc-law.com>; Robert Lang =
<robertlangtr6@yahoo.com><br><b>Cc:</b> fot =
<fot@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Connecting rod =
question<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Bob,<o:p></=
o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Yes, I =
also ran into the issue of the side of the MS rod hitting the bottom of =
the bore. Nothing like taking a grinder to a freshly honed block! As it =
turned out, I only needed to make about an 1/8" chamfer on one =
side. Car has been running well for a couple of race weekends so far. =
Even survived Henry Morrison racing it at RA! Just kidding, Henry was a =
huge help with sorting and set up. I also have the MS roods in my Sprite =
1275 and in our TR3. Seem to be pretty bombproof, and the price point is =
hard to beat.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> =
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Hope to =
see you all at the Cup in July!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Jake<o:p></=
o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> =
</o:p></span></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyahoo_quoted_5073327280"><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 07:24:26 AM CST, Robert Lang via Fot =
<<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div =
id=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Hi - For TR6, the challenge is the bore being less than 3 inches. A =
lot of the aftermarket rod big ends won't fit down the bore. So, from =
this seat, the choices are limited. The Max SPeeding rods use 5/16" =
ARP 2000 rod bolts, so they will not fit into a stock bore, you MUST =
overbore by +.030 or more. At least that's what I recall. Most of us =
will go for a max. overbore to be legal, +.040 but there's most likely =
some motors out there that are more than .040 over... the point being =
that the larger than stock big end dimensions will work with those =
over-overbores. One potential "gotcha" for the H-beam rods is =
the side clearance to the bottom of the piston bore on one side is =
almost zero, so you have to relieve the bottom of the piston bore for =
clearance. This is no big deal, but it must be done. This is one area =
where the Carillo and Pauter has an advantage... one less =
"step" in the build =
process.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>I will also say that I built a motor a few years ago with the =
MaxSpeeding Rods and had them checked out and found them to be as others =
reported, dimensions spot on, and balanced and equal weight within less =
than 1 gram across the set. Actually, 5 rods were the same weight and =
one was about .5 grams heavier. I also saw a small variance in the small =
end bush and had to lightly hone 1 of the rods to get the wrist pin to =
fit properly. Honestly, the finish of the parts was impressive. I'll =
probably use them again. The biggest reason: when I bought that set, it =
was less expensive for a entire set than it would be to recondition and =
balance a set of stock rods.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>I don't have enough hours on that engine to address longevity, but I =
will say that at the time I bought the set from Max SPeeding, several =
FOTs also reported on or off list that they had good experience with =
them. I have seen zero reports to the =
contrary.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Based on that experience, other than potential questions about the =
material composition of the rods, e.g. 4130 steel, I wouldn't steer =
anyone away from using these parts. And right now, I'll take new metal =
over stuff that was made when the earth was still cooling... =
anytime.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Bob Lang<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div =
id=3D"ydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yahoo_quoted_5279506785"><div><d=
iv id=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324yqt50410><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 11:26:14 PM EST, John H. Hasty via =
Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div =
id=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Gosh guys, with the almost unlimited selection of racing rods for =
Ford and Chevy v8 monster engines at reasonable prices, why are you =
paying and praying for stock sized =
replicas?<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297yqt97760><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>On Jan 25, 2023, at 8:42 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot <<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>=
=EF=BB=BF</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div></div><div =
id=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297yqt37746><div><div><=
p class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>I=E2=80=99ve used the Pauter rods to good effect, too. They =
have proven very durable for me!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Scott (B.)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor'><p =
class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal><b><spa=
n =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> Fot <<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";>fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>=
> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brad Eells via Fot<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, =
January 25, 2023 1:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:walt@hot-tr6.com";>walt@hot-tr6.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> fot =
<<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>><br><b>Subje=
ct:</b> Re: [Fot] Connecting rod =
question<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Walt,<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>I went with Pauter rods for the Spitfire due to the use of a larger =
rod bolt than Carillo.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3Dydp6e4fcf6fyiv2242704324ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297msonormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Marty Sukey posted some very nasty pictures of his Carillos and a rod =
bolt failure=E2=80=A6good enough for =
me.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Not sure how it will apply to TR6 items but worth a =
look.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282=
A'>Brad Eells<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p =
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A'>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p =
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A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><blockquote =
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A'>On Jan 25, 2023, at 11:33 AM, Walt Hollowell via Fot <<a =
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target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div><blockquote =
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A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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A'>I have built a few full race engines for my TR6 using MaxSpeeding =
connecting rods with acceptable results. For my next build I am =
considering Carrillo rods which run about $650 more than the MaxSpeeding =
rods. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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A'>Do and FOT members feel that the Carrillo rods are worth the extra =
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