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Hi - For TR6, the challenge is the bore being less than 3 inches. A lot of=
the aftermarket rod big ends won't fit down the bore. So, from this seat, =
the choices are limited. The Max SPeeding rods use 5/16" ARP 2000 rod bolts=
, so they will not fit into a stock bore, you MUST overbore by +.030 or mor=
e. At least that's what I recall. Most of us will go for a max. overbore to=
be legal, +.040 but there's most likely some motors out there that are mor=
e than .040 over... the point being that the larger than stock big end dime=
nsions will work with those over-overbores. One potential "gotcha" for the =
H-beam rods is the side clearance to the bottom of the piston bore on one s=
ide is almost zero, so you have to relieve the bottom of the piston bore fo=
r clearance. This is no big deal, but it must be done. This is one area whe=
re the Carillo and Pauter has an advantage... one less "step" in the build =
process.
I will also say that I built a motor a few years ago with the MaxSpeeding R=
ods and had them checked out and found them to be as others reported, dimen=
sions spot on, and balanced and equal weight within less than 1 gram across=
the set. Actually, 5 rods were the same weight and one was about .5 grams =
heavier. I also saw a small variance in the small end bush and had to light=
ly hone 1 of the rods to get the wrist pin to fit properly. Honestly, the f=
inish of the parts was impressive. I'll probably use them again. The bigges=
t reason: when I bought that set, it was less expensive for a entire set th=
an it would be to recondition and balance a set of stock rods.
I don't have enough hours on that engine to address longevity, but I will s=
ay that at the time I bought the set from Max SPeeding, several FOTs also r=
eported on or off list that they had good experience with them. I have seen=
zero reports to the contrary.
Based on that experience, other than potential questions about the material=
composition of the rods, e.g. 4130 steel, I wouldn't steer anyone away fro=
m using these parts. And right now, I'll take new metal over stuff that was=
made when the earth was still cooling... anytime.
Regards,Bob Lang
On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 11:26:14 PM EST, John H. Hasty via Fo=
t <fot@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
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Gosh guys, with the almost unlimited selection of racing rods for Ford and=
Chevy v8 monster engines at reasonable prices, why are you paying and pray=
ing for stock =C2=A0sized replicas?
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 25, 2023, at 8:42 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote=
:
=EF=BB=BF
I=E2=80=99ve used the Pauter rods to good effect, too.=C2=A0 They have prov=
en very durable for me!
=20
Scott (B.)
=20
=C2=A0
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From: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf OfBrad Eells via Fot
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2023 1:48 PM
To: walt@hot-tr6.com
Cc: fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Connecting rod question
=20
=C2=A0
=20
Walt,
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=C2=A0
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I went with Pauter rods for the Spitfire due to the use of a larger rod bol=
t than Carillo.
=20
=C2=A0
=20
Marty Sukey posted some very nasty pictures of his Carillos and a rod bolt =
failure=E2=80=A6good enough for me.
=20
=C2=A0
=20
Not sure how it will apply to TR6 items but worth a look.
=20
Brad Eells
=20
Sent from my iPhone
=20
=20
On Jan 25, 2023, at 11:33 AM, Walt Hollowell via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> w=
rote:
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=EF=BB=BF
=20
I have built a few full race engines for my TR6 using MaxSpeeding connectin=
g rods with acceptable results. For my next build I am considering Carrillo=
rods which run about $650 more than the MaxSpeeding rods.
=20
Do and FOT members feel that the Carrillo rods are worth the extra bucks or=
should I be happy with the MaxSpeeding considering the affordability?
=20
Thanks,
=20
Walter Hollowell
=20
Albuquerque, New Mexico
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<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Hi - For TR6, the challenge =
is the bore being less than 3 inches. A lot of the aftermarket rod big ends=
won't fit down the bore. So, from this seat, the choices are limited. The =
Max SPeeding rods use 5/16" ARP 2000 rod bolts, so they will not fit into a=
stock bore, you MUST overbore by +.030 or more. At least that's what I rec=
all. Most of us will go for a max. overbore to be legal, +.040 but there's =
most likely some motors out there that are more than .040 over... the point=
being that the larger than stock big end dimensions will work with those o=
ver-overbores. One potential "gotcha" for the H-beam rods is the side clear=
ance to the bottom of the piston bore on one side is almost zero, so you ha=
ve to relieve the bottom of the piston bore for clearance. This is no big d=
eal, but it must be done. This is one area where the Carillo and Pauter has=
an advantage... one less "step" in the build process.<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false=
">I will also say that I built a motor a few years ago with the MaxSpeeding=
Rods and had them checked out and found them to be as others reported, dim=
ensions spot on, and balanced and equal weight within less than 1 gram acro=
ss the set. Actually, 5 rods were the same weight and one was about .5 gram=
s heavier. I also saw a small variance in the small end bush and had to lig=
htly hone 1 of the rods to get the wrist pin to fit properly. Honestly, the=
finish of the parts was impressive. I'll probably use them again. The bigg=
est reason: when I bought that set, it was less expensive for a entire set =
than it would be to recondition and balance a set of stock rods.</div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D=
"false">I don't have enough hours on that engine to address longevity, but =
I will say that at the time I bought the set from Max SPeeding, several FOT=
s also reported on or off list that they had good experience with them. I h=
ave seen zero reports to the contrary.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D=
"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Based on that expe=
rience, other than potential questions about the material composition of th=
e rods, e.g. 4130 steel, I wouldn't steer anyone away from using these part=
s. And right now, I'll take new metal over stuff that was made when the ear=
th was still cooling... anytime.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false=
"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Regards,</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Bob Lang<br></div><div><br></div>
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ans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 11:26:14 PM EST, John=
H. Hasty via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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<div><br></div>
<div><div id=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297"><div>
Gosh guys, with the almost unlimited selection of racing rods for Ford and =
Chevy v8 monster engines at reasonable prices, why are you paying and prayi=
ng for stock sized replicas?<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
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297yqt7169228958"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jan 25, 2023, at 8:42 PM, Barr, Scott via Fot =
<fot@autox.team.net> wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
</blockquote>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
</div></blockquote></div></div><div id=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297yqt37746"=
class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297yqt7169228958"><div><div class=3D"ydpb1b1=
4da6yiv1167942297WordSection1">
<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99ve used the Pauter=
rods to good effect, too. They have proven very durable for me!<br c=
lear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">Scott (B.)</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal"> </p>=20
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<div style=3D"border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor currentcolor; b=
order-style: solid none none; border-width: 1pt medium medium; padding: 3pt=
0in 0in;">
<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Fot <fot-bou=
nces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Brad Eells via Fot<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 25, 2023 1:48 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> walt@hot-tr6.com<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Cc:</b> fot <fot@autox.team.net><br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Connecting rod question</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal"> </p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">Walt,</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal"> </p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">I went with Pauter rods for =
the Spitfire due to the use of a larger rod bolt than Carillo.</p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal"> </p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">Marty Sukey posted some very=
nasty pictures of his Carillos and a rod bolt failure=E2=80=A6good enough =
for me.</p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal"> </p>=20
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNorm=
al">Not sure how it will apply to TR6 items but worth a look.</p>=20
<div>
<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">Brad Eells</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone</p>=20
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<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNorm=
al">On Jan 25, 2023, at 11:33 AM, Walt Hollowell via Fot <<a shape=3D"re=
ct" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer =
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<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">I have built a few full race=
engines for my TR6 using MaxSpeeding connecting rods with acceptable resul=
ts. For my next build I am considering Carrillo rods which run about $650 m=
ore than the MaxSpeeding rods.
</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">Do and FOT members feel that=
the Carrillo rods are worth the extra bucks or should I be happy with the =
MaxSpeeding considering the affordability?</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">Thanks,</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpb1b14da6yiv1167942297MsoNormal">Walter Hollowell</p>=20
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