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I third that request. Thanks.
Dave H. =20
Sent from my iPad
> On May 24, 2020, at 5:46 PM, dustin nicholson via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>=
wrote:
>=20
> YES!!! I also have no idea who emails to this list if they don=E2=80=99t s=
ign their name. It would be so nice if we knew who you were.
>=20
> (It=E2=80=99s just a phone mail app issue for me, computer mail app doesn=E2=
=80=99t have this problem)
>=20
> Dusty Nicholson=20
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone
>=20
>> On May 23, 2020, at 6:28 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrot=
e:
>>=20
>> =EF=BB=BFNot responding to this email but questioning if people know that=
some of these posts come from the fot@autox.team.net and unless you sign yo=
ur name we don=E2=80=99t know who is writing.
>>=20
>> Maybe others get the individual email address, but I don=E2=80=99t.
>>=20
>> Bob Kramer
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>=20
>>> On May 23, 2020, at 10:37 AM, Stephen Jones via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>=
wrote:
>>>=20
>>> =EF=BB=BF
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> As a member of SVRA for just four years, and minimal events participated=
in, perhaps I am not the most qualified to critique the issue of whether or=
not to be racing during this unsettling period. My racing involvement spans=
four decades with many organizations, and my experiences with SVRA has been=
exceptional from everyone I have had the pleasure to be in contact with. SV=
RA prescribes meticulous directives and protocol to provide maximum safety f=
or it=E2=80=99s members and competitors.
>>> =20
>>> With a few exceptions, racing is basically a money losing proposition fo=
r most of us. Whether your pockets are deep, or you need to exercise prudenc=
e over financial resources, racing is a luxury. it is not an essential activ=
ity of well being. It provides no homeostatic need other than to actualize a=
passion, which, I will agree, does keep many of us sane.
>>> =20
>>> Now, unfortunately, each of us needs to make their own decision on wheth=
er to continue this pleasure under the guise of something that could potenti=
ally make one terminally ill or be a catalyst to others. I do not wish to en=
gage in a dialogue of opinion and personal discernment .I do not believe the=
re is a right or wrong answer, SVRA has taken extraordinary actions to assur=
e personal safety, and I applaud their endeavor. Yet, I have to ask myself, i=
s the risk worth the reward for me?=20
>>> =20
>>> I have looked forward to participating in the Mid-Ohio/Kastner event, fo=
r the past several months, particularly since racing at Mid-Ohio has been on=
my bucket list for over 40 years. Regretfully, I have made the decision to s=
uspend further participation until the current health situation has some pos=
itive resolve. To quote Steve McQeen =E2=80=9CLife is racing, the rest is j=
ust waiting.=E2=80=9D For myself, it is time to wait. I hope the wait is not=
too long.
>>> =20
>>> Lastly, this is a passionate debate, and there appears to be an atmosphe=
re of rancor among a few of the postings. May I suggest that before one pres=
ses the send button, that they wait overnight and carefully re-read what has=
been written. We can disagree, but a little civility might be exercised. Z=
eal and anger can be a volatile combination. As grandma said, =E2=80=9Cyou c=
atch more bee=E2=80=99s with honey than vinegar=E2=80=9D After all, this po=
st is called =E2=80=9CFriends of Triumph=E2=80=9D.
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> From: "Ken Knight via Fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2020 7:56 PM
>>> To: "J Wagner via Fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Fot] To Consider Before you Race
>>> =20
>>> Well then all is going to just fine and you this will magically go away.=
Good luck.
>>> =20
>>> Sent=E2=80=89from=E2=80=89my=E2=80=89Verizon=E2=80=89Smartphone
>>> On May 22, 2020 2:44 PM, J Wagner via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> =20
>>> Guess what Ken, I give everyone social distance. I wear a mask when req=
uested by the business. I don=E2=80=99t go over and hug folk. I don=E2=80=99=
t visit retirement homes. if I did, I=E2=80=99d wash up, wear a mask, and s=
ocial distance as required. =20
>>> =20
>>> I recall a friend died of a bacteria around his heart many years ago, sh=
ortly after my dad=E2=80=99s death. The doctors said this particular bug li=
kely came from his garden. In the years since, did I stop gardening? Did I=
lay awake at night thinking about what I might pick up in my garden and sha=
re with family and friends? Dad, on the other hand, had a heart attack afte=
r a day of skiing. You never know what=E2=80=99s going to take us.
>>> =20
>>> A best friend from high school died of pneumonia late last year as he tr=
ied to sleep off, alone, what he thought was a cold. Age 57.
>>> =20
>>> Really, look at the numbers. We can=E2=80=99t live in a bubble.
>>> =20
>>> Every year, it seems, someone I personally knew has died, long before Co=
vid-19 came along, and, no doubt, it will continue long after. So far, none=
have passed from Covid-19 that I personally knew, but It could happen. May=
be it will be the guy in my mirror. =20
>>> =20
>>> This is not the pandemic where it=E2=80=99s so bad every family will be t=
ouched and it=E2=80=99s ok to leave leave bodies at the curb for pick up. I=
t=E2=80=99s not playing russian roulette to try to get back to some semblanc=
e of normalcy.
>>> =20
>>> I beg you to not let the early predictions of this virus to lead you to n=
ot even admit your =E2=80=9CRussian Roulette with an automatic.=E2=80=9D was=
way off base.
>>> =20
>>> And by the way, =E2=80=9CWhile you are getting through Covid with no pro=
blems=E2=80=9D... you mean like how I=E2=80=99m unemployed with no prospects=
because what was supposed to be a short term chance to get our hospitals an=
d emergency services prepared, so there=E2=80=99d be enough beds, masks, and=
ventilators has gone on well beyond the need? =20
>>> =20
>>> Your scare mongering is going =E2=80=9Cto be a real bitch when someone w=
e personally love=E2=80=9D faces financial ruin, commits suicide, is victimi=
zed by predators, etc. because of the lockdown. How=E2=80=99s it feel to h=
ave people=E2=80=99s deaths laid on you like that? I wouldn=E2=80=99t have g=
one there.
>>> =20
>>> I believe you remain way off base, but we can agree to disagree. I onl=
y posted a response because I felt compelled to respond so that FOT members h=
ave a balance. =20
>>> =20
>>> Never be beaten by a virus!
>>> =20
>>> =E2=80=94Justin
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 1:45 PM, Ken Knight via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wro=
te:
>>> =20
>>> Well Justin you go for it and good luck to you. While you are getting t=
hrough Covid with no problems let's just hope you are not one of the 35 % th=
at doesn't know it and spread it to someone you care about. That herd immun=
ity is going to be a real bitch to achieve and means someone we personally l=
ove will be dead. Ken
>>> =20
>>> Sent=E2=80=89from=E2=80=89my=E2=80=89Verizon=E2=80=89Smartphone
>>> On May 22, 2020 1:08 PM, J Wagner via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> I=E2=80=99m sorry Ken, IMHO, you=E2=80=99re way off base.
>>> =20
>>> =E2=80=9C....Covid is killing people in all age groups, no one should co=
nsider themselves =E2=80=98low risk=E2=80=99. This virus is like playing Ru=
ssian Roulette with an automatic....=E2=80=9D
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>> That describes the Covid-19 that the early models were describing, but t=
hose models were wrong and have been discredited.=20
>>> =20
>>> Yes, in fact, some people can consider themselves =E2=80=9Clow risk=E2=80=
=9D and no, it=E2=80=99s not like playing Russian Roulette at all. And it=E2=
=80=99s certainly not like playing it with an automatic.
>>> =20
>>> If one is elderly, particularly those with underlying issues, sure, they=
should play it safe. And anyone with an underlying issue should weigh the r=
isks and watch out for themselves. The rest need to get on with their lives=
. =20
>>> =20
>>> The flu didn=E2=80=99t stop vintage racing.
>>> =E2=80=9CIf people die at the current rate of 5.9% then....=E2=80=9D =20=
>>>=20
>>> That =E2=80=9Ccurrent rate=E2=80=9D is not sustainable so your suppositi=
on is not based in reality. The curve doesn=E2=80=99t just happen in a day w=
hen we cross a threshold, it happens slowly as we reach herd immunity. =20
>>>=20
>>> And weather is proving to be significant as the southern hemisphere face=
s their fall and numbers are rising there. We=E2=80=99re heading into our S=
ummer!
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>> Let=E2=80=99s all take a reality pill here. =20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> You said, =E2=80=9CWe are all big boys and girls and we get to make our o=
wn decisions. I think this decision should be made on sound medical science=
and fact, not what we would like to have happen. =E2=80=9C
>>>=20
>>> Yes. So enough with the =E2=80=9Crussian roulette with an automatic=E2=80=
=9D analogies. That=E2=80=99s gross hyperbole, not science.
>>>=20
>>> It=E2=80=99s a bad bug, but we go on with life, just as we always have w=
ith the various threats that face us every day.
>>>=20
>>> What=E2=80=99s the stats for race car drivers getting hurt or killed? W=
hat=E2=80=99s the stats of sports fans being hit by lightening? What=E2=80=99=
s the stats on dying from pneumonia? Car accidents? Going to an ATM late a=
t night?
>>>=20
>>> Yet we all get on with our lives.
>>>=20
>>> =E2=80=94Justin
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 10:26 AM, Kenneth Knight via Fot <fot@autox.team.net=
> wrote:
>>> =20
>>> =20
>>> The CDC just announced today that 35% of Covid cases are asymptomatic. I=
t appears you can spread Covid 19 and not know you are sick. What if you ar=
e one of those folks that then go home an give it to your family?
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> As of today there 1.61 million cases in the US with deaths at 95,213 or a=
death rate 5.9%. Over this weekend we will pass 100,000 dead.
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> Covid is killing people in all age groups, no one should consider themse=
lves =E2=80=98low risk=E2=80=99. This virus is like playing Russian Roulett=
e with an automatic.
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> It is clear that the US national strategy is to open up and either get a=
vaccine in 18-24 months or achieve =E2=80=9CHerd Immunity=E2=80=9D which re=
quires some 60-70% of the population to have lived through being sick in ord=
er to develop antibodies against the virus.
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> The numbers needed to get to Herd Immunity roughly require 200,000,000 A=
mericans to have had the virus.
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> If people die at the current rate of 5.9% then some =C2=B111,000,000 peo=
ple would perish in getting to Herd Immunity. Even if better treatments and=
the demise of very high risk people cut the death rate to just 1%, we would=
see some 2,000,000 people die of Covid.
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> Someone once said that if wishing were so, pigs could fly. You can cros=
s your fingers this going to get better in June in the Midwest but all the i=
ndications are quite the opposite. We opened the country in mid May to vary=
ing degrees (not right or wrong, just fact) and infection rate numbers and d=
eath rates are likely to significantly rise in June. It takes a couple of w=
eeks before people start showing up sick at their locale hospitals.
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> We are all big boys and girls and we get to make our own decisions. I t=
hink this decision should be made on sound medical science and fact, not wha=
t we would like to have happen. I have a couple of good doctor friends, un=
til they are willing to go back racing after what they are seeing in their h=
ospitals, I will not return to the track as much as I want to. I wish all t=
he very best of luck.
>>>=20
>>> =20
>>>=20
>>> Ken
>>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>I third that request. Thanks.</d=
iv><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Dave H. <br><br>Sent from my iPad</d=
iv><div><br>On May 24, 2020, at 5:46 PM, dustin nicholson via Fot <<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></d=
iv><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D=
"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">YES!!! I also have no idea who emails to this l=
ist if they don=E2=80=99t sign their name. It would be so nice if we knew wh=
o you were.<div><br></div><div>(It=E2=80=99s just a phone mail app issue for=
me, computer mail app doesn=E2=80=99t have this problem)<br><div><br></div>=
<div>Dusty Nicholson <br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On May 23, 2020, at 6:28 PM, B=
ob Kramer via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.n=
et</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; c=
harset=3Dutf-8">Not responding to this email but questioning if people know t=
hat some of these posts come from the <a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>=
fot@autox.team.net</a> and unless you sign your name we don=E2=80=99t know w=
ho is writing.<div><br><div>Maybe others get the individual email address, b=
ut I don=E2=80=99t.</div><div><br></div><div>Bob Kramer<br><div dir=3D"ltr">=
Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On M=
ay 23, 2020, at 10:37 AM, Stephen Jones via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@au=
tox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<span style=3D"font-family=
: Arial, Helvetica, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12px"><div>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-fam=
ily: Helvetica; min-height: 14px;"> </p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-fam=
ily: Helvetica; min-height: 14px;"> </p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-fam=
ily: Helvetica;">As a member of SVRA for just four years, and minimal events=
participated in, perhaps I am not the most qualified to critique the issue o=
f whether or not to be racing during this unsettling period. My racing invol=
vement spans four decades with many organizations, and my experiences with S=
VRA has been exceptional from everyone I have had the pleasure to be in cont=
act with. SVRA prescribes meticulous directives and protocol to provide maxi=
mum safety for it=E2=80=99s members and competitors.</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-fam=
ily: Helvetica; min-height: 14px;"> </p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-fam=
ily: Helvetica;">With a few exceptions, racing is basically a money losing p=
roposition for most of us. Whether your pockets are deep, or you need to exe=
rcise prudence over financial resources, racing is a luxury. it is not an es=
sential activity of well being. It provides no homeostatic need other than t=
o actualize a passion, which, I will agree, does keep many of us sane.</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-fam=
ily: Helvetica; min-height: 14px;"> </p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-fam=
ily: Helvetica;">Now, unfortunately, each of us needs to make their own deci=
sion on whether to continue this pleasure under the guise of something that c=
ould potentially make one terminally ill or be a catalyst to others. I do no=
t wish to engage in a dialogue of opinion and personal discernment .I do not=
believe there is a right or wrong answer, SVRA has taken extraordinary acti=
ons to assure personal safety, and I applaud their endeavor. Yet, I have to a=
sk myself, is the risk worth the reward for me? </p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-fam=
ily: Helvetica; min-height: 14px;"> </p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-fam=
ily: Helvetica;">I have looked forward to participating in the Mid-Ohio/Kast=
ner event, for the past several months, particularly since racing at Mid-Ohi=
o has been on my bucket list for over 40 years. Regretfully, I have made the=
decision to suspend further participation until the current health situatio=
n has some positive resolve. To quote Steve McQeen =E2=80=9CLife is ra=
cing, the rest is just waiting.=E2=80=9D For myself, it is time to wait. I h=
ope the wait is not too long.</p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-fam=
ily: Helvetica; min-height: 14px;"> </p>
<p style=3D"margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height: normal; font-fam=
ily: Helvetica;">Lastly, this is a passionate debate, and there appears to b=
e an atmosphere of rancor among a few of the postings. May I suggest that be=
fore one presses the send button, that they wait overnight and carefully re-=
read what has been written. We can disagree, but a little civility might be e=
xercised. Zeal and anger can be a volatile combination. As grandma sai=
d, =E2=80=9Cyou catch more bee=E2=80=99s with honey than vinegar=E2=80=9D&nb=
sp; After all, this post is called =E2=80=9CFriends of Triumph=E2=80=9D.</p>=
</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<hr align=3D"center" size=3D"2" width=3D"100%">
<div><span style=3D"font-family: tahoma,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;">=
<b>From</b>: "Ken Knight via Fot" <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>=
fot@autox.team.net</a>><br>
<b>Sent</b>: Friday, May 22, 2020 7:56 PM<br>
<b>To</b>: "J Wagner via Fot" <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@=
autox.team.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject</b>: Re: [Fot] To Consider Before you Race</span>
<div> </div>
<div>Well then all is going to just fine and you this will magically go away=
. Good luck.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Sent=E2=80=89from=E2=80=89my=E2=80=89Verizon=E2=80=89Smartphone</div>
<div class=3D"elided-text">On May 22, 2020 2:44 PM, J Wagner via Fot <<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:
<blockquote class=3D"quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc s=
olid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr"> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Guess what Ken, I give everyone social distance. I we=
ar a mask when requested by the business. I don=E2=80=99t go over and h=
ug folk. I don=E2=80=99t visit retirement homes. if I did, I=E2=80=99d=
wash up, wear a mask, and social distance as required. </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I recall a friend died of a bacteria around his heart many y=
ears ago, shortly after my dad=E2=80=99s death. The doctors said this p=
articular bug likely came from his garden. In the years since, did I s=
top gardening? Did I lay awake at night thinking about what I might pi=
ck up in my garden and share with family and friends? Dad, on the othe=
r hand, had a heart attack after a day of skiing. You never know what=E2=
=80=99s going to take us.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">A best friend from high school died of pneumonia late last y=
ear as he tried to sleep off, alone, what he thought was a cold. Age 5=
7.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Really, look at the numbers. We can=E2=80=99t live i=
n a bubble.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Every year, it seems, someone I personally knew has died, l=
ong before Covid-19 came along, and, no doubt, it will continue long after. &=
nbsp;So far, none have passed from Covid-19 that I personally knew, but It c=
ould happen. Maybe it will be the guy in my mirror. </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">This is not the pandemic where it=E2=80=99s so bad every fa=
mily will be touched and it=E2=80=99s ok to leave leave bodies at the curb f=
or pick up. It=E2=80=99s not playing russian roulette to try to get ba=
ck to some semblance of normalcy.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I beg you to not let the early predictions of this virus to=
lead you to not even admit your =E2=80=9CRussian Roulette with an automatic=
.=E2=80=9D was way off base.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">And by the way, =E2=80=9C<span style=3D"background-color:rg=
ba( 255 , 255 , 255 , 0 )">While you are getting through Covid with no probl=
ems=E2=80=9D... you mean like how I=E2=80=99m unemployed with no prospects b=
ecause what was supposed to be a short term chance to get our hospitals and e=
mergency services prepared, so there=E2=80=99d be enough beds, masks, and ve=
ntilators has gone on well beyond the need? </span></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"background-color:rgba( 255 , 255 , 255 , 0 )=
">Your scare mongering is going =E2=80=9Cto be a real bitch when someone we p=
ersonally love=E2=80=9D faces financial ruin, commits suicide, is victimized=
by predators, etc. because of the lockdown. How=E2=80=99s it fe=
el to have people=E2=80=99s deaths laid on you like that? I wouldn=E2=80=
=99t have gone there.</span></div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"background-color:rgba( 255 , 255 , 255 , 0 )=
">I believe you remain way off base, but we can agree to disagree. I o=
nly posted a response because I felt compelled to respond so that FOT member=
s have a balance. </span></div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Never be beaten by a virus!</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">=E2=80=94Justin</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">On May 22, 2020, at 1:45 PM, Ken Knight via Fot <<a href=
=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>Well Justin you go for it and good luck to you. While you are get=
ting through Covid with no problems let's just hope you are not one of the 3=
5 % that doesn't know it and spread it to someone you care about. That=
herd immunity is going to be a real bitch to achieve and means someone we p=
ersonally love will be dead. Ken</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Sent=E2=80=89from=E2=80=89my=E2=80=89Verizon=E2=80=89Smartphone</div>
<div class=3D"elided-text">On May 22, 2020 1:08 PM, J Wagner via Fot <<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I=E2=80=99m sorry Ken, IMHO, you=E2=80=99re way off base.</=
div>
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<p><span style=3D"background-color:rgba( 255 , 255 , 255 , 0 )">=E2=80=9C...=
.Covid is killing people in all age groups, no one should consider themselve=
s =E2=80=98low risk=E2=80=99. This virus is like playing Russian Roule=
tte with an automatic....=E2=80=9D</span></p>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">That describes the Covid-19 that the early models were desc=
ribing, but those models were wrong and have been discredited. </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Yes, in fact, some people can consider themselves =E2=80=9C=
low risk=E2=80=9D and no, it=E2=80=99s not like playing Russian Roulette at a=
ll. And it=E2=80=99s certainly not like playing it with an automatic.<=
/div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">If one is elderly, particularly those with underlying issue=
s, sure, they should play it safe. And anyone with an underlying issue=
should weigh the risks and watch out for themselves. The rest need to=
get on with their lives. </div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">The flu didn=E2=80=99t stop vintage racing.</div>
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<p><span style=3D"background-color:rgba( 255 , 255 , 255 , 0 )">=E2=80=9CIf p=
eople die at the current rate of 5.9% then....=E2=80=9D </span><=
/p>
<p>That =E2=80=9Ccurrent rate=E2=80=9D is not sustainable so your suppositio=
n is not based in reality. The curve doesn=E2=80=99t just happen in a d=
ay when we cross a threshold, it happens slowly as we reach herd immunity. &=
nbsp;</p>
<p>And weather is proving to be significant as the southern hemisphere faces=
their fall and numbers are rising there. We=E2=80=99re heading into o=
ur Summer!</p>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><img alt=3D"image1.png" src=3D"cid:38DF62C2-D777-4282-8709-=
7B20A39F430C" data-unique-identifier=3D""></div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"background-color:rgba( 255 , 255 , 255 , 0 )=
">Let=E2=80=99s all take a reality pill here. </span></div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><img alt=3D"image1.png" src=3D"cid:BCAB3BAC-3041-44FE-8AF7-=
DE7026256D7A" data-unique-identifier=3D""></div>
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<p> </p>
<p><span style=3D"background-color:rgba( 255 , 255 , 255 , 0 )">You said,&nb=
sp;</span><span style=3D"background-color:rgba( 255 , 255 , 255 , 0 )">=E2=80=
=9CWe are all big boys and girls and we get to make our own decisions. =
</span><span style=3D"background-color:rgba( 255 , 255 , 255 , 0 )">I think=
this decision should be made on sound medical science and fact, not what we=
would like to have happen. =E2=80=9C</span></p>
<p>Yes. So enough with the =E2=80=9Crussian roulette with an automatic=
=E2=80=9D analogies. That=E2=80=99s gross hyperbole, not science.</p>=
<p>It=E2=80=99s a bad bug, but we go on with life, just as we always have wi=
th the various threats that face us every day.</p>
<p>What=E2=80=99s the stats for race car drivers getting hurt or killed? &nb=
sp; What=E2=80=99s the stats of sports fans being hit by lightening? W=
hat=E2=80=99s the stats on dying from pneumonia? Car accidents? =
Going to an ATM late at night?</p>
<p>Yet we all get on with our lives.</p>
<p>=E2=80=94Justin</p>
<p> </p>
<p> </p>
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On May 22, 2020, at 10:26 AM, Kenneth Knight via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:f=
ot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p>The CDC just announced today that 35% of Covid cases are asymptomatic.&nb=
sp; It appears you can spread Covid 19 and not know you are sick. What=
if you are one of those folks that then go home an give it to your family?<=
/p>
<p> </p>
<p>As of today there 1.61 million cases in the US with deaths at 95,213 or a=
death rate 5.9%. Over this weekend we will pass 100,000 dead.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Covid is killing people in all age groups, no one should consider themsel=
ves =E2=80=98low risk=E2=80=99. This virus is like playing Russian Rou=
lette with an automatic.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>It is clear that the US national strategy is to open up and either get a v=
accine in 18-24 months or achieve =E2=80=9CHerd Immunity=E2=80=9D which requ=
ires some 60-70% of the population to have lived through being sick in order=
to develop antibodies against the virus.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>The numbers needed to get to Herd Immunity roughly require 200,000,000 Am=
ericans to have had the virus.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>If people die at the current rate of 5.9% then some =C2=B111,000,000 peop=
le would perish in getting to Herd Immunity. Even if better treatments=
and the demise of very high risk people cut the death rate to just 1%, we w=
ould see some 2,000,000 people die of Covid.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Someone once said that if wishing were so, pigs could fly. You can c=
ross your fingers this going to get better in June in the Midwest but all th=
e indications are quite the opposite. We opened the country in mid May=
to varying degrees (not right or wrong, just fact) and infection rate numbe=
rs and death rates are likely to significantly rise in June. It takes a=
couple of weeks before people start showing up sick at their locale hospita=
ls.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>We are all big boys and girls and we get to make our own decisions. =
I think this decision should be made on sound medical science and fact, not=
what we would like to have happen. I have a couple of good doct=
or friends, until they are willing to go back racing after what they are see=
ing in their hospitals, I will not return to the track as much as I want to.=
I wish all the very best of luck.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Ken</p>
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