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I think Mr Hasty knows you know what IMHO means. =C2=A0
I suspect he is questioning if in fact your opinion=C2=A0is humble.
Well! As Joe always said, "NO DUES. =C2=A0NO RULES"
I guess that's why the FOT works.
Bill Dentinger
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On=C2=A0Friday, May 22, 2020,=C2=A0J Wagner via Fot=C2=A0<fot@autox.team.n=
et>=C2=A0wrote:
In my humble opinion
On May 22, 2020, at 1:23 PM, John H. Hasty <jhasty@mhc-law.com> wrote:
IMHO?
Sent from my iPhone
On May 22, 2020, at 4:22 PM, J Wagner via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
=EF=BB=BFI=E2=80=99m sorry Ken, IMHO, you=E2=80=99re way off base.
=E2=80=9C....Covid is killing people in all age groups, no one should consi=
der themselves =E2=80=98low risk=E2=80=99.=C2=A0 This virus is like playing=
Russian Roulette with an automatic....=E2=80=9D
That describes the Covid-19 that the early models were describing, but thos=
e models were wrong and have been discredited.=C2=A0
Yes, in fact, some people can consider themselves =E2=80=9Clow risk=E2=80=
=9D and no, it=E2=80=99s not like playing Russian Roulette at all. =C2=A0An=
d it=E2=80=99s certainly not like playing it with an automatic.
If one is elderly, particularly those with underlying issues, sure, they sh=
ould play it safe. =C2=A0And anyone with an underlying issue should weigh t=
he risks and watch out for themselves. =C2=A0The rest need to get on with t=
heir lives. =C2=A0
The flu didn=E2=80=99t stop vintage racing.
=E2=80=9CIf people die at the current rate of 5.9% then....=E2=80=9D =C2=A0=
=C2=A0
That =E2=80=9Ccurrent rate=E2=80=9D is not sustainable so your supposition =
is not based in reality. =C2=A0The curve doesn=E2=80=99t just happen in a d=
ay when we cross a threshold, it happens slowly as we reach herd immunity. =
=C2=A0
And weather is proving to be significant as the southern hemisphere faces t=
heir fall and numbers are rising there. =C2=A0We=E2=80=99re heading into ou=
r Summer!
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Let=E2=80=99s all take a reality pill here. =C2=A0
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You said,=C2=A0=E2=80=9CWe are all big boys and girls and we get to make ou=
r own decisions.=C2=A0I think this decision should be made on sound medical=
science and fact, not what we would like to have happen. =E2=80=9C
Yes. =C2=A0So enough with the =E2=80=9Crussian roulette with an automatic=
=E2=80=9D analogies. =C2=A0 That=E2=80=99s gross hyperbole, not science.
It=E2=80=99s a bad bug, but we go on with life, just as we always have with=
the various threats that face us every day.
What=E2=80=99s the stats for race car drivers getting hurt or killed? =C2=
=A0 What=E2=80=99s the stats of sports fans being hit by lightening? =C2=A0=
What=E2=80=99s the stats on dying from pneumonia? =C2=A0Car accidents? =C2=
=A0Going to an ATM late at night?
Yet we all get on with our lives.
=E2=80=94Justin
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rote:
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The CDC just announced today that 35% of Covid cases are asymptomatic.=C2=
=A0 It appears you can spread Covid 19 and not know you are sick.=C2=A0 Wha=
t if you are one of those folks that then go home an give it to your family=
?
=20
=C2=A0
=20
As of today there 1.61 million cases in the US with deaths at 95,213 or a d=
eath rate 5.9%.=C2=A0 Over this weekend we will pass 100,000 dead.
=20
=C2=A0
=20
Covid is killing people in all age groups, no one should consider themselve=
s =E2=80=98low risk=E2=80=99.=C2=A0 This virus is like playing Russian Roul=
ette with an automatic.
=20
=C2=A0
=20
It is clear that the US national strategy is to open up and either get a va=
ccine in 18-24 months or achieve =E2=80=9CHerd Immunity=E2=80=9D which requ=
ires some 60-70% of the population to have lived through being sick in orde=
r to develop antibodies against the virus.
=20
=C2=A0
=20
The numbers needed to get to Herd Immunity roughly require 200,000,000 Amer=
icans to have had the virus.
=20
=C2=A0
=20
If people die at the current rate of 5.9% then some =C2=B111,000,000 people=
would perish in getting to Herd Immunity.=C2=A0 Even if better treatments =
and the demise of very high risk people cut the death rate to just 1%, we w=
ould see some 2,000,000 people die of Covid.
=20
=C2=A0
=20
Someone once said that if wishing were so, pigs could fly.=C2=A0 You can cr=
oss your fingers this going to get better in June in the Midwest but all th=
e indications are quite the opposite.=C2=A0 We opened the country in mid Ma=
y to varying degrees (not right or wrong, just fact) and infection rate num=
bers and death rates are likely to significantly rise in June.=C2=A0 It tak=
es a couple of weeks before people start showing up sick at their locale ho=
spitals.
=20
=C2=A0
=20
We are all big boys and girls and we get to make our own decisions.=C2=A0 I=
think this decision should be made on sound medical science and fact, not =
what we would like to have happen. =C2=A0=C2=A0I have a couple of good doct=
or friends, until they are willing to go back racing after what they are se=
eing in their hospitals, I will not return to the track as much as I want t=
o.=C2=A0 I wish all the very best of luck.
=20
=C2=A0
=20
Ken
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I think Mr Hasty knows you know what IMHO means. <div><br></div><div>=
I suspect he is questioning if in fact your opinion is humble.</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>Well! As Joe always said, "NO DUES. NO RULES"</div>=
<div><br></div><div>I guess that's why the FOT works.</div><div><br></div><=
div>Bill Dentinger<br><br><br><div id=3D"__aol_mail_signature__"><div style=
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On Friday, May 22, 2020, J Wagner via Fot <fot@autox.=
team.net> wrote:
</div><br>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 9px;padding:0 0 0 9px;"><div id=3D"yiv403=
5461173"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">In my humble opinion<=
/div><div class=3D"yiv4035461173yqt6796745333" id=3D"yiv4035461173yqt91956"=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">On May 22, 2020, at 1:23 PM, John H. H=
asty <<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:jhasty@mhc-la=
w.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:jhasty@mhc-law.com";>jhasty@mhc-law.=
com</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">
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=3D"yiv4035461173yqt47551"><div>
IMHO?<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
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<blockquote type=3D"cite">On May 22, 2020, at 4:22 PM, J Wagner via Fot <=
;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; t=
arget=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
<div dir=3D"ltr"><span></span></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr"></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I=E2=80=99m sorry Ken, IMHO, you=E2=80=99re way off base.<=
/div>
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</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<p class=3D"yiv4035461173p1"><span class=3D"yiv4035461173s1" style=3D"backg=
round-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">=E2=80=9C....Covid is killing people i=
n all age groups, no one should consider themselves =E2=80=98low risk=E2=80=
=99. This virus is like playing Russian Roulette with an automatic...=
.=E2=80=9D</span></p>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">That describes the Covid-19 that the early models were des=
cribing, but those models were wrong and have been discredited. </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Yes, in fact, some people can consider themselves =E2=80=
=9Clow risk=E2=80=9D and no, it=E2=80=99s not like playing Russian Roulette=
at all. And it=E2=80=99s certainly not like playing it with an autom=
atic.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">If one is elderly, particularly those with underlying issu=
es, sure, they should play it safe. And anyone with an underlying iss=
ue should weigh the risks and watch out for themselves. The rest need=
to get on with their lives. </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">The flu didn=E2=80=99t stop vintage racing.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<p class=3D"yiv4035461173p1"><span class=3D"yiv4035461173s1" style=3D"backg=
round-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">=E2=80=9CIf people die at the current =
rate of 5.9% then....=E2=80=9D </span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv4035461173p1">That =E2=80=9Ccurrent rate=E2=80=9D is not sus=
tainable so your supposition is not based in reality. The curve doesn=
=E2=80=99t just happen in a day when we cross a threshold, it happens slowl=
y as we reach herd immunity. </p>
<p class=3D"yiv4035461173p1">And weather is proving to be significant as th=
e southern hemisphere faces their fall and numbers are rising there. =
We=E2=80=99re heading into our Summer!</p>
</div>
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</div>
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</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">L=
et=E2=80=99s all take a reality pill here. </span></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
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<p class=3D"yiv4035461173p1"><span class=3D"yiv4035461173s1" style=3D"backg=
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<p class=3D"yiv4035461173p1"><span class=3D"yiv4035461173s1" style=3D"backg=
round-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">You said, </span><span style=3D"b=
ackground-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">=E2=80=9CWe are all big boys and g=
irls and we get to make our own decisions.
</span><span style=3D"background-color:rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I think thi=
s decision should be made on sound medical science and fact, not what we wo=
uld like to have happen. =E2=80=9C</span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv4035461173p1">Yes. So enough with the =E2=80=9Crussian=
roulette with an automatic=E2=80=9D analogies. That=E2=80=99s gross=
hyperbole, not science.</p>
<p class=3D"yiv4035461173p1">It=E2=80=99s a bad bug, but we go on with life=
, just as we always have with the various threats that face us every day.</=
p>
<p class=3D"yiv4035461173p1">What=E2=80=99s the stats for race car drivers =
getting hurt or killed? What=E2=80=99s the stats of sports fans bein=
g hit by lightening? What=E2=80=99s the stats on dying from pneumonia=
? Car accidents? Going to an ATM late at night?</p>
<p class=3D"yiv4035461173p1">Yet we all get on with our lives.</p>
<p class=3D"yiv4035461173p1">=E2=80=94Justin</p>
<p class=3D"yiv4035461173p1"><br clear=3D"none">
</p>
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On May 22, 2020, at 10:26 AM, Kenneth Knight via Fot <<a rel=3D"nofollow=
" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" hr=
ef=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br clear=
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<p class=3D"yiv4035461173MsoNormal">The CDC just announced today that 35% o=
f Covid cases are asymptomatic. It appears you can spread Covid 19 an=
d not know you are sick. What if you are one of those folks that then=
go home an give it to your family?</p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv4035461173MsoNormal"> </p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv4035461173MsoNormal">As of today there 1.61 million cases in=
the US with deaths at 95,213 or a death rate 5.9%. Over this weekend=
we will pass 100,000 dead.</p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv4035461173MsoNormal"> </p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv4035461173MsoNormal">Covid is killing people in all age grou=
ps, no one should consider themselves =E2=80=98low risk=E2=80=99. Thi=
s virus is like playing Russian Roulette with an automatic.</p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv4035461173MsoNormal"> </p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv4035461173MsoNormal">It is clear that the US national strate=
gy is to open up and either get a vaccine in 18-24 months or achieve =E2=80=
=9CHerd Immunity=E2=80=9D which requires some 60-70% of the population to h=
ave lived through being sick in order to develop antibodies against
the virus.</p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv4035461173MsoNormal"> </p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv4035461173MsoNormal">The numbers needed to get to Herd Immun=
ity roughly require 200,000,000 Americans to have had the virus.</p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv4035461173MsoNormal"> </p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv4035461173MsoNormal">If people die at the current rate of 5.=
9% then some =C2=B111,000,000 people would perish in getting to Herd Immuni=
ty. Even if better treatments and the demise of very high risk people=
cut the death rate to just 1%, we would see some 2,000,000
people die of Covid.</p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv4035461173MsoNormal"> </p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv4035461173MsoNormal">Someone once said that if wishing were =
so, pigs could fly. You can cross your fingers this going to get bett=
er in June in the Midwest but all the indications are quite the opposite.&n=
bsp; We opened the country in mid May to varying degrees
(not right or wrong, just fact) and infection rate numbers and death rates=
are likely to significantly rise in June. It takes a couple of weeks=
before people start showing up sick at their locale hospitals.</p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv4035461173MsoNormal"> </p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv4035461173MsoNormal">We are all big boys and girls and we ge=
t to make our own decisions. I think this decision should be made on =
sound medical science and fact, not what we would like to have happen. &nbs=
p; I have a couple of good doctor friends, until they are
willing to go back racing after what they are seeing in their hospitals, I=
will not return to the track as much as I want to. I wish all the ve=
ry best of luck.</p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv4035461173MsoNormal"> </p>=20
<p class=3D"yiv4035461173MsoNormal">Ken</p>=20
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