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In my humble opinion
> On May 22, 2020, at 1:23 PM, John H. Hasty <jhasty@mhc-law.com> wrote:
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> IMHO?
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 22, 2020, at 4:22 PM, J Wagner via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:=
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>> =EF=BB=BF
>> I=E2=80=99m sorry Ken, IMHO, you=E2=80=99re way off base.
>>=20
>> =E2=80=9C....Covid is killing people in all age groups, no one should con=
sider themselves =E2=80=98low risk=E2=80=99. This virus is like playing Rus=
sian Roulette with an automatic....=E2=80=9D
>>=20
>>=20
>> That describes the Covid-19 that the early models were describing, but th=
ose models were wrong and have been discredited.=20
>>=20
>> Yes, in fact, some people can consider themselves =E2=80=9Clow risk=E2=80=
=9D and no, it=E2=80=99s not like playing Russian Roulette at all. And it=E2=
=80=99s certainly not like playing it with an automatic.
>>=20
>> If one is elderly, particularly those with underlying issues, sure, they s=
hould play it safe. And anyone with an underlying issue should weigh the ri=
sks and watch out for themselves. The rest need to get on with their lives.=
=20
>>=20
>> The flu didn=E2=80=99t stop vintage racing.
>> =E2=80=9CIf people die at the current rate of 5.9% then....=E2=80=9D =20=
>>=20
>> That =E2=80=9Ccurrent rate=E2=80=9D is not sustainable so your suppositio=
n is not based in reality. The curve doesn=E2=80=99t just happen in a day w=
hen we cross a threshold, it happens slowly as we reach herd immunity. =20
>>=20
>> And weather is proving to be significant as the southern hemisphere faces=
their fall and numbers are rising there. We=E2=80=99re heading into our Su=
mmer!
>>=20
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>> <image1.png>
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>> Let=E2=80=99s all take a reality pill here. =20
>>=20
>> <image1.png>
>>=20
>>=20
>> You said, =E2=80=9CWe are all big boys and girls and we get to make our o=
wn decisions. I think this decision should be made on sound medical science=
and fact, not what we would like to have happen. =E2=80=9C
>>=20
>> Yes. So enough with the =E2=80=9Crussian roulette with an automatic=E2=80=
=9D analogies. That=E2=80=99s gross hyperbole, not science.
>>=20
>> It=E2=80=99s a bad bug, but we go on with life, just as we always have wi=
th the various threats that face us every day.
>>=20
>> What=E2=80=99s the stats for race car drivers getting hurt or killed? W=
hat=E2=80=99s the stats of sports fans being hit by lightening? What=E2=80=99=
s the stats on dying from pneumonia? Car accidents? Going to an ATM late a=
t night?
>>=20
>> Yet we all get on with our lives.
>>=20
>> =E2=80=94Justin
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>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
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>>=20
>> On May 22, 2020, at 10:26 AM, Kenneth Knight via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>=
wrote:
>>=20
>>> The CDC just announced today that 35% of Covid cases are asymptomatic. I=
t appears you can spread Covid 19 and not know you are sick. What if you ar=
e one of those folks that then go home an give it to your family?
>>> =20
>>> As of today there 1.61 million cases in the US with deaths at 95,213 or a=
death rate 5.9%. Over this weekend we will pass 100,000 dead.
>>> =20
>>> Covid is killing people in all age groups, no one should consider themse=
lves =E2=80=98low risk=E2=80=99. This virus is like playing Russian Roulett=
e with an automatic.
>>> =20
>>> It is clear that the US national strategy is to open up and either get a=
vaccine in 18-24 months or achieve =E2=80=9CHerd Immunity=E2=80=9D which re=
quires some 60-70% of the population to have lived through being sick in ord=
er to develop antibodies against the virus.
>>> =20
>>> The numbers needed to get to Herd Immunity roughly require 200,000,000 A=
mericans to have had the virus.
>>> =20
>>> If people die at the current rate of 5.9% then some =C2=B111,000,000 peo=
ple would perish in getting to Herd Immunity. Even if better treatments and=
the demise of very high risk people cut the death rate to just 1%, we would=
see some 2,000,000 people die of Covid.
>>> =20
>>> Someone once said that if wishing were so, pigs could fly. You can cros=
s your fingers this going to get better in June in the Midwest but all the i=
ndications are quite the opposite. We opened the country in mid May to vary=
ing degrees (not right or wrong, just fact) and infection rate numbers and d=
eath rates are likely to significantly rise in June. It takes a couple of w=
eeks before people start showing up sick at their locale hospitals.
>>> =20
>>> We are all big boys and girls and we get to make our own decisions. I t=
hink this decision should be made on sound medical science and fact, not wha=
t we would like to have happen. I have a couple of good doctor friends, un=
til they are willing to go back racing after what they are seeing in their h=
ospitals, I will not return to the track as much as I want to. I wish all t=
he very best of luck.
>>> =20
>>> Ken
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">In m=
y humble opinion</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On May 22, 2020, at 1:23 PM, John=
H. Hasty <<a href=3D"mailto:jhasty@mhc-law.com";>jhasty@mhc-law.com</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">
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IMHO?<br>
<br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On May 22, 2020, at 4:22 PM, J Wagner via Fot <=
<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
<div dir=3D"ltr"><span></span></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr"></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">I=E2=80=99m sorry Ken, IMHO, you=E2=80=99re way off base.</=
div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<p class=3D"p1"><span class=3D"s1" style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255,=
255, 0);">=E2=80=9C....Covid is killing people in all age groups, no one sh=
ould consider themselves =E2=80=98low risk=E2=80=99. This virus is lik=
e playing Russian Roulette with an automatic....=E2=80=9D</span></p>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">That describes the Covid-19 that the early models were desc=
ribing, but those models were wrong and have been discredited. </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Yes, in fact, some people can consider themselves =E2=80=9C=
low risk=E2=80=9D and no, it=E2=80=99s not like playing Russian Roulette at a=
ll. And it=E2=80=99s certainly not like playing it with an automatic.<=
/div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">If one is elderly, particularly those with underlying issue=
s, sure, they should play it safe. And anyone with an underlying issue=
should weigh the risks and watch out for themselves. The rest need to=
get on with their lives. </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">The flu didn=E2=80=99t stop vintage racing.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<p class=3D"p1"><span class=3D"s1" style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255,=
255, 0);">=E2=80=9CIf people die at the current rate of 5.9% then....=E2=80=
=9D </span></p>
<p class=3D"p1">That =E2=80=9Ccurrent rate=E2=80=9D is not sustainable so yo=
ur supposition is not based in reality. The curve doesn=E2=80=99t just=
happen in a day when we cross a threshold, it happens slowly as we reach he=
rd immunity. </p>
<p class=3D"p1">And weather is proving to be significant as the southern hem=
isphere faces their fall and numbers are rising there. We=E2=80=99re h=
eading into our Summer!</p>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div><image1.png></div>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">L=
et=E2=80=99s all take a reality pill here. </span></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div><image1.png></div>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<p class=3D"p1"><span class=3D"s1" style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255,=
255, 0);"><br>
</span></p>
<p class=3D"p1"><span class=3D"s1" style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255,=
255, 0);">You said, </span><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 2=
55, 255, 0);">=E2=80=9CWe are all big boys and girls and we get to make our o=
wn decisions.
</span><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I think thi=
s decision should be made on sound medical science and fact, not what we wou=
ld like to have happen. =E2=80=9C</span></p>
<p class=3D"p1">Yes. So enough with the =E2=80=9Crussian roulette with=
an automatic=E2=80=9D analogies. That=E2=80=99s gross hyperbole, not=
science.</p>
<p class=3D"p1">It=E2=80=99s a bad bug, but we go on with life, just as we a=
lways have with the various threats that face us every day.</p>
<p class=3D"p1">What=E2=80=99s the stats for race car drivers getting hurt o=
r killed? What=E2=80=99s the stats of sports fans being hit by lighte=
ning? What=E2=80=99s the stats on dying from pneumonia? Car acci=
dents? Going to an ATM late at night?</p>
<p class=3D"p1">Yet we all get on with our lives.</p>
<p class=3D"p1">=E2=80=94Justin</p>
<p class=3D"p1"><br>
</p>
<p class=3D"p1"><br>
</p>
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</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
On May 22, 2020, at 10:26 AM, Kenneth Knight via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:f=
ot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">As of today there 1.61 million cases in the US with d=
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00,000 dead.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Covid is killing people in all age groups, no one sho=
uld consider themselves =E2=80=98low risk=E2=80=99. This virus is like=
playing Russian Roulette with an automatic.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">It is clear that the US national strategy is to open u=
p and either get a vaccine in 18-24 months or achieve =E2=80=9CHerd Immunity=
=E2=80=9D which requires some 60-70% of the population to have lived through=
being sick in order to develop antibodies against
the virus.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The numbers needed to get to Herd Immunity roughly re=
quire 200,000,000 Americans to have had the virus.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">If people die at the current rate of 5.9% then some =C2=
=B111,000,000 people would perish in getting to Herd Immunity. Even if=
better treatments and the demise of very high risk people cut the death rat=
e to just 1%, we would see some 2,000,000
people die of Covid.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Someone once said that if wishing were so, pigs could=
fly. You can cross your fingers this going to get better in June in t=
he Midwest but all the indications are quite the opposite. We opened t=
he country in mid May to varying degrees
(not right or wrong, just fact) and infection rate numbers and death rates a=
re likely to significantly rise in June. It takes a couple of weeks be=
fore people start showing up sick at their locale hospitals.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">We are all big boys and girls and we get to make our o=
wn decisions. I think this decision should be made on sound medical sc=
ience and fact, not what we would like to have happen. I have a c=
ouple of good doctor friends, until they are
willing to go back racing after what they are seeing in their hospitals, I w=
ill not return to the track as much as I want to. I wish all the very b=
est of luck.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ken<o:p></o:p></p>
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