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Hi Phil =E2=80=93 There is a better solution to the stock tensioner. It =
was developed by Ken Knight for the wet liner engine and is hydraulic =
similar to the system used on Datsun 4cyl and Z engines. His is a piece =
of art.
=20
Barry.
- Stuck up here in northern Alberta with everything shut down. Even =
the first half of our racing season has been cancelled.
- Keep safe everyone.
- It is really encouraging to see FOT waking up, I was really =
starting to miss it.
=20
From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of vfracing--- =
via Fot
Sent: March 24, 2020 6:32 AM
To: van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be
Cc: fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Doug Still Guides Me...
=20
Hi Marcel;=20
=20
Line boring should not materially affect the chain itself, as the crank =
centerline is raised usually less than .005". Might affect cam timing a =
bit, but in the worst case scenario that can be fixed with a Vernier =
sprocket.=20
=20
However, I agree with your assessment of the tensioner. Would like to =
know if there is a better solution.
=20
Phil
-----Original Message-----
From: van.mulders.marcel <van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be>
To: Phil Gott <vfracing@aol.com>
Cc: fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Mar 24, 2020 8:26 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] Doug Still Guides Me...
What about the chain? Is there noticeably more slach of it?
The chain tensioners do almost nothing . Sometimes there are deep =
grooves in a short time, sometimes there is almost no scoring. Probably =
this is because of the chain running smoothly or with severe =
oscillations. Oscillations of the chain will have an influence on the =
ignition timing too.
Has anyone tried an alternative solution for the tensioner to keep the =
chain quiet?
Marcel
=20
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Van: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
Aan: "Bob Kramer" <rkramer56@gmail.com>
Cc: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
Verzonden: Dinsdag 24 maart 2020 12:47:41
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Doug Still Guides Me...
=20
Yes, Bob, as far as I know you are correct, the bearing notches in the =
caps and saddles are always on the same side. =20
In the TR wet sleeve engine, each cap is unique as to its position, so =
it should be really hard to mix them up.
Kas is right, however, in that in many engines it is good practice to =
mark each cap as to position and orientation, just to be sure.
I have had a wet sleeve block line bored just to true it up at ABT =
machine in Holliston, Mass. This creates two issues that must be =
addressed, both due to the slight raising of the crank center line:
1) the clearance space of the top of the pistons needs to be checked to =
be sure there is no interference at TDC. Usually not a problem.
2) more of a problem is that the aluminum insert for the rear main seal =
may interfere with the block. This will become apparent when using the =
centering tool, and can be addressed by filing down the area of the seal =
where it interferes. Do not file or alter any other surface, as this =
will compromise the ability of the seal to function and/or to hold =
correctly one of the aftermarket rubber seals. Be careful also not to =
gouge the face of the aluminum seal where it mates with the flat surface =
of the block. Go slow and be careful. It should all work as intended.
Phil Gott
=20
Sent from my iPhone
=20
On Mar 23, 2020, at 10:36 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> =
wrote:
Don=E2=80=99t all the main bearing caps go in with bearing notches on =
the same side as the notches in the saddles in the block? Or is that =
just a TR4 thing?
Sent from my iPhone
=20
On Mar 23, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Enquiries Road & Track via Fot =
<fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
firstly, are you 100% sure the caps are correctly fitted both round the =
right way and in number order?
you need to decide if the caps are misaligned across the block or if the =
tunnel is simply oval because the hole in in cap is too far up or down. =
this will need a combination of feel and measurement
if the alternative caps have a significant step to 1 side, so you will =
clearly feel a ledge at the mating faces when they are tightened up
=20
if the stap is very minor, like a few thousandths of an inch, then the =
faces of the cap are machined down to create an oval hole, then it it is =
align honed
=20
if it is really bad, like many tens of thou, then you have to firstly =
move the cap sideways by machining the register on 1 side and peening it =
on the other, and effectively moving it sideways, followed by =
boring/honing
=20
sometimes, the bolts are too neat a fit to allow this and if thats the =
case, its usually easier to find some other caps or make them
=20
if the tunnel is simply an oval because the cap is too far up or down, =
this is usually easily fixed by facing the cap mating surfaces and =
reboring the tunnels
=20
not all engine machine shop have a line borer...mine did not, so =
subcontracting the job is not uncommon
=20
the end result should be a perfectly round hole with a super fine hone =
(cross-hatch) mark on the bearing faces, to ensure perfect bearing shell =
contact
=20
Terry
Australia
=20
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=20
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On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 1:32 AM Bud Rolofson via Fot =
<fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
Speaking of main caps I bought a block that turned out to not have the =
original main caps. The caps on there did not match up with the block =
but I=E2=80=99ve been unable to find a machine shop that can machine =
them so there=E2=80=99s a round hole for the crank. The shop I had do my =
last block (and they do 427 race engines among others and are well =
respected) told me that the result would be ovaled out holes (not round) =
which obviously is not good.=20
Certainly there=E2=80=99s a way to make this work but I haven=E2=80=99t =
found it. I checked out another block shop but said they subcontract =
line-boring to the the shop that said they couldn=E2=80=99t do it.=20
=20
Has anyone else encountered this problem? I=E2=80=99ve heard that steel =
mains might be an answer but they=E2=80=99d still have to be line-bored =
to make them match. I hate to ship a block to get this done before I =
have reassurances that they can make it work but does anyone know of =
that has successfully made main caps match the block? Given I=E2=80=99m =
spending a lot of time these days staying home and catching up on car =
projects in the shop I figured it would be a good time to start building =
the next engine.
=20
Solutions or recommendations?
=20
Thanks
Bud
=20
On Mar 22, 2020, at 9:33 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> =
wrote:
=20
Amici,
In typically rookie race engine builder mode with the block I selected =
for rebuild, I pulled the main bearing caps (with my new fancy DeWalt =
20V Impact Wrench) and then couldn't remember which way around they =
went.=20
=20
This led to visions of catastrophic failure somewhere down the road. =
Yet, I had several other blocks I could flip over and make a =
determination if need be.
=20
I was examining one of the caps when I discovered the faintest engraving =
on the surface of each cap:
Eng #2 Front Fwd
Eng #2 Mid Fwd
Eng #2 Rr Fwd
=20
Doug Brown, my original owner/builder/driver extraordinaire had engraved =
each cap for me to make sure a mistake didn't occur. He rotated 3 =
engines during each season in a quest for Divisional and National =
Championships.
=20
I guess that is the way a aeronautical/mechanical engineer and very =
successful racer thinks.
=20
Thanks again Doug!
=20
<IMG_8745.jpg>
=20
Cheers,
=20
Brad Eells
Chino CA
#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3
#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4
1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!
Image removed by sender.
=20
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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color:#1F497D'>Hi Phil =E2=80=93 There is a better solution to the stock =
tensioner. It
was developed by Ken Knight for the wet liner engine and is hydraulic =
similar
to the system used on Datsun 4cyl and Z engines. His is a piece of =
art.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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color:#1F497D'>Barry.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span =
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color:#1F497D'>Stuck up here in northern Alberta with everything shut =
down. Even
the first half of our racing season has been =
cancelled.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Keep safe everyone.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>It is really encouraging to see FOT waking up, I was =
really
starting to miss it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Fot
[mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>vfracing--- via =
Fot<br>
<b>Sent:</b> March 24, 2020 6:32 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be<br>
<b>Cc:</b> fot@autox.team.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Doug Still Guides Me...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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color:black'>Hi Marcel; <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>Line boring should not materially affect the chain itself, =
as the
crank centerline is raised usually less than .005". Might =
affect cam
timing a bit, but in the worst case scenario that can be fixed with a =
Vernier
sprocket. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>However, I agree with your assessment of the tensioner.
Would like to know if there is a better =
solution.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
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<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Message-----<br>
From: van.mulders.marcel <van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be><br>
To: Phil Gott <vfracing@aol.com><br>
Cc: fot <fot@autox.team.net><br>
Sent: Tue, Mar 24, 2020 8:26 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Doug Still Guides Me...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>What about the chain? Is there noticeably more slach of =
it?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>The chain tensioners do almost nothing . Sometimes there =
are deep
grooves in a short time, sometimes there is almost no scoring. Probably =
this is
because of the chain running smoothly or with severe oscillations. =
Oscillations
of the chain will have an influence on the ignition timing =
too.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Has anyone tried an alternative solution for the tensioner =
to keep
the chain quiet?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Marcel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
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color:black'>Van: </span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>"fot" <fot@autox.team.net><br>
<b>Aan: </b>"Bob Kramer" <rkramer56@gmail.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"fot" <fot@autox.team.net><br>
<b>Verzonden: </b>Dinsdag 24 maart 2020 12:47:41<br>
<b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: [Fot] Doug Still Guides =
Me...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Yes, Bob, as far as I know you are correct, the bearing =
notches in
the caps and saddles are always on the same side. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>In the TR wet sleeve engine, each cap is unique as to its
position, so it should be really hard to mix them =
up.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Kas is right, however, in that in many engines it is good =
practice
to mark each cap as to position and orientation, just to be =
sure.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>I have had a wet sleeve block line bored just to true it up =
at ABT
machine in Holliston, Mass. This creates two issues that must be =
addressed,
both due to the slight raising of the crank center =
line:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>1) the clearance space of the top of the pistons needs to =
be
checked to be sure there is no interference at TDC. Usually not a =
problem.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>2) more of a problem is that the aluminum insert for the =
rear main
seal may interfere with the block. This will become apparent when using =
the
centering tool, and can be addressed by filing down the area of the seal =
where
it interferes. Do not file or alter any other surface, as this will =
compromise
the ability of the seal to function and/or to hold correctly one of the
aftermarket rubber seals. Be careful also not to gouge the face of =
the
aluminum seal where it mates with the flat surface of the block. Go slow =
and be
careful. It should all work as intended.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Phil Gott<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span><=
/p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>On Mar 23, 2020, at =
10:36 PM,
Bob Kramer via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Don=E2=80=99t all the =
main bearing caps
go in with bearing notches on the same side as the notches in the =
saddles in
the block? Or is that just a TR4 thing?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>On Mar 23, 2020, at 6:59 =
PM,
Enquiries Road & Track via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>firstly, are you 100% sure the caps are correctly fitted =
both
round the right way and in number order?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>you need to decide if =
the caps
are misaligned across the block or if the tunnel is simply oval
because the hole in in cap is too far up or down. this will need a
combination of feel and measurement<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>if the alternative caps have a significant step to 1 =
side, so
you will clearly feel a ledge at the mating faces when they are =
tightened up<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>if the stap is very minor, like a few thousandths of =
an inch,
then the faces of the cap are machined down to create an oval hole, then =
it it
is align honed<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>if it is really bad, like many tens of thou, then you have =
to
firstly move the cap sideways by machining the register on 1 side and
peening it on the other, and effectively moving it sideways, =
followed by
boring/honing<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>sometimes, the bolts are too neat a fit to allow this and =
if thats
the case, its usually easier to find some other caps or make =
them<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>if the tunnel is simply an oval because the cap =
is too
far up or down, this is usually easily fixed by facing the cap mating =
surfaces
and reboring the tunnels<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>not all engine machine shop have a line borer...mine did =
not, so
subcontracting the job is not uncommon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>the end result should be a perfectly round hole with a =
super fine
hone (cross-hatch) mark on the bearing faces, to ensure perfect =
bearing
shell contact<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'> Terry<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
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<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 1:32 AM Bud Rolofson via Fot <<a
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC =
1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;
margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Speaking of main caps I bought a block that turned out to =
not have
the original main caps. The caps on there did not match up with the =
block but
I=E2=80=99ve been unable to find a machine shop that can machine them so =
there=E2=80=99s a
round hole for the crank. The shop I had do my last block (and they do =
427 race
engines among others and are well respected) told me that the result =
would be
ovaled out holes (not round) which obviously is not good. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Certainly there=E2=80=99s a way to make this work but I =
haven=E2=80=99t found it.
I checked out another block shop but said they subcontract line-boring =
to the
the shop that said they couldn=E2=80=99t do =
it. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Has anyone else encountered this problem? I=E2=80=99ve =
heard that steel
mains might be an answer but they=E2=80=99d still have to be line-bored =
to make them
match. I hate to ship a block to get this done before I have =
reassurances that
they can make it work but does anyone know of that has successfully made =
main
caps match the block? Given I=E2=80=99m spending a lot of time these =
days staying home
and catching up on car projects in the shop I figured it would be a good =
time
to start building the next engine.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Solutions or recommendations?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>Bud<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>On Mar 22, 2020, at 9:33 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <<a
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Amici,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>In typically rookie race engine builder mode with the block =
I
selected for rebuild, I pulled the main bearing caps (with my new fancy =
DeWalt
20V Impact Wrench) and then couldn't remember which way around they =
went. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>This led to visions of catastrophic failure somewhere down =
the
road. Yet, I had several other blocks I could flip over and make a
determination if need be.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>I was examining one of the caps when I discovered the =
faintest
engraving on the surface of each cap:<br>
<br>
Eng #2 Front Fwd<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Eng #2 Mid Fwd<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Eng #2 Rr Fwd<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Doug Brown, my original owner/builder/driver extraordinaire =
had
engraved each cap for me to make sure a mistake didn't occur. He rotated =
3
engines during each season in a quest for Divisional and National
Championships.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>I guess that is the way a aeronautical/mechanical engineer =
and
very successful racer thinks.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Thanks again Doug!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><IMG_8745.jpg><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span><=
/p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Brad Eells</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.5pt;font-family:
"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Chino CA</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:
9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.5pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!</span></b><span
style=3D'font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm'><img border=3D0 =
width=3D96
height=3D94 id=3D"_x0000_i1026" =
src=3D"cid:image001.jpg@01D601C9.F6D77D20"
alt=3D"Image removed by sender."></span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.5pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>_________________________=
______________________<br>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'>Bud Rolofson<br>
<br>
Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)<br>
<br>
71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)<br>
71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3<br>
69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)<br>
93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle <br>
77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph =
Pit Bike) <o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";
color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>_________________________=
______________________<br>
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target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a><br>
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