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A little toe out is an old auto-x trick. It helps rotate the car through a =
tight course. However, for road racing it is probably not optimal. Rear toe=
out will make it unstable at high speed and will scrub speed on straights.=
Rear toe in will make the car more stable at high speed at the cost of scr=
ubbing speed. That being said outside of extreme auto-x or similar in my op=
inion the rear tires should always be zero toe. If you are looking for bett=
er turn in try a little toe out at the front. However this comes at a cost =
as well. It will scrub speed and can induce some =E2=80=9Cdartyness=E2=80=
=9D (not sure that=E2=80=99s a word) in the steering. So make sure you keep=
your hands and grip on the wheel at all times. Toe out will want to follow=
any crack or rut in the road.
My hillclimb spitsix (gt6 suspension) I run zero toe at the rear and 1/16=
=E2=80=9D toe out at the front measured at the center of tire sidewall on 2=
0=E2=80=9D diameter tire and 13=E2=80=9D dia wheels.=C2=A0Hope that=E2=80=
=99s helpful.Good luck,Brian=C2=A0
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
On Sunday, June 9, 2019, 10:18 AM, Rick Parent via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>=
wrote:
The general rule is you never want toe out on the rear, if you have been r=
unning that way you should notice a difference in straight line stability a=
s well as turn in response.
On Sunday, June 9, 2019, 5:52:49 AM EDT, van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot =
<fot@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
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Checking the rear axle of my TR4A racecar, I found that the rear wheels ha=
ve 2mm toe out (distance between the tyres front to rear) instead of the ex=
pected toe in.Removing 1 shim on the outside suspension point of the traili=
ng arms will change things to 2.5mm toe in. I think I will go for that, unl=
ess fot members have experienced that more or less toe in are giving better=
results (especially turn in characteristics)Marcel________________________=
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A little toe out is an old auto-x trick. It helps rotate the car through a =
tight course. However, for road racing it is probably not optimal. Rear toe=
out will make it unstable at high speed and will scrub speed on straights.=
Rear toe in will make the car more stable at high speed at the cost of scr=
ubbing speed. That being said outside of extreme auto-x or similar in my op=
inion the rear tires should always be zero toe. If you are looking for bett=
er turn in try a little toe out at the front. However this comes at a cost =
as well. It will scrub speed and can induce some =E2=80=9Cdartyness=E2=80=
=9D (not sure that=E2=80=99s a word) in the steering. So make sure you keep=
your hands and grip on the wheel at all times. Toe out will want to follow=
any crack or rut in the road.<div><br></div><div>My hillclimb spitsix (gt6=
suspension) I run zero toe at the rear and 1/16=E2=80=9D toe out at the fr=
ont measured at the center of tire sidewall on 20=E2=80=9D diameter tire an=
d 13=E2=80=9D dia wheels. </div><div>Hope that=E2=80=99s helpful.</div=
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have been running that way you should notice a difference in straight line=
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v>Checking the rear axle of my TR4A racecar, I found that the rear wheels h=
ave 2mm toe out (distance between the tyres front to rear) instead of the e=
xpected toe in.</div><div>Removing 1 shim on the outside suspension point o=
f the trailing arms will change things to 2.5mm toe in. I think I will go f=
or that, unless fot members have experienced that more or less toe in are g=
iving better results (especially turn in characteristics)</div><div>Marcel<=
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