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The interesting thing with rods is, how long does it.
1 year , 3 years , 10 years?
My rods did it 5 years.
Am 23.07.2015 16:41 schrieb "John Hasty" <jhasty@mhc-law.com>:
> Gee Whiz=E2=80=A6.you guys know a h- - - of a lot more about this than m=
e, but I
> reason that if Manley etc. make a rod that withstands the rigors of a 800=
+
> hp American V8 turning upwards of 9000 rpm and it costs =C2=BD of what P =
and C
> are charging it makes sense to use them=E2=80=A6..
>
>
>
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> *From:* Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *John
> Styduhar
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2015 9:59 AM
> *To:* Christian Marx; Triumph 'Friends of Triumph
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] Racing rod design
>
>
>
> Pauter has been making this design for almost 30 years with zero cold
> failures. If it were a poor design they would have changed it out of
> necessity. According to a Pauter rep., the main reason they started
> manufacturing their own rods in the first place was due to the fact that
> the H beam and I beam rods they were using couldn=E2=80=99t put up with w=
hat they
> were throwing at them with their turbo charged 4cylinder engines.
>
> If you spin a rod bearing, eventually you will break anything.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Christian Marx <tr4racing@googlemail.com=
>
> wrote:
>
> I saw the pictures of Pauter.
> This type has no material were it needs and too much were it doesn't make
> sense. Maybe for very short rods usable.
>
> Am 23.07.2015 14:46 schrieb "John Styduhar" <johnstydo@gmail.com>:
>
> The Pauter design is a cross-beam (an inside-out H beam) not an x-beam
> and shares H-beam design properties because of this.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 3:34 AM, MadMarx <tr4racing@googlemail.com> wrote=
:
>
> Today I had a look to a book called race car design.
>
> It also contains engines, and as detail rods and their designs. I, H,
> blade =E2=80=93 no x-beam (seems they never got the idea that someone cou=
ld get the
> idea of an x-beam rod)
>
>
>
> They said that F1 uses I-beam rods because they have the best stiffness t=
o
> weight ratio.
>
> Also German DTM-cars use I-beam rods.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Tourenwagen_Masters
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Chris
>
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<p dir=3D"ltr">The interesting thing with rods is, how long does it. <br>
1 year , 3 years , 10 years? <br>
My rods did it 5 years. </p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">Am 23.07.2015 16:41 schrieb "John Hasty&quo=
t; <<a href=3D"mailto:jhasty@mhc-law.com";>jhasty@mhc-law.com</a>>:<br=
type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Gee Whiz=E2=80=A6.you guys know a h- =
- - of a lot more about this than me, but I reason that if Manley etc. make=
a rod that withstands the rigors of a 800+ hp American
V8 turning upwards of 9000 rpm and it costs =C2=BD of what P and C are cha=
rging it makes sense to use them=E2=80=A6..<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
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ze:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">John H. H=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"=
;Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Fot [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:=
fot-bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a=
>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Styduhar<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 23, 2015 9:59 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Christian Marx; Triumph 'Friends of Triumph<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Racing rod design<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Pauter has been making this design fo=
r almost 30 years with zero cold failures.=C2=A0 If it were a poor design t=
hey would have changed it out of necessity.=C2=A0 According
to a Pauter rep., the main reason they started manufacturing their own rod=
s in the first place was due to the fact that the H beam and I beam rods th=
ey were using couldn=E2=80=99t put up with what they were throwing at them =
with their turbo charged 4cylinder engines.
=C2=A0=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">If you spin a rod bearing,=C2=A0event=
ually you will break anything.=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Christian Marx <=
<a href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"; target=3D"_blank">tr4racing@goo=
glemail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<p>I saw the pictures of Pauter.<br>
This type has no material were it needs and too much were it doesn't ma=
ke sense.=C2=A0 Maybe for very short rods usable.
<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Am 23.07.2015 14:46 schrieb "John Styduhar"=
; <<a href=3D"mailto:johnstydo@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">johnstydo@gm=
ail.com</a>>:<u></u><u></u></p>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">The Pauter design is a cross-beam (an=
inside-out H beam) not an x-beam and shares H-beam design properties becau=
se of this.=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 3:34 AM, MadMarx <<a href=
=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"; target=3D"_blank">tr4racing@googlemail=
.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0i=
n 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ve=
rdana",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Today I had a look to a book called r=
ace car design.</span><span lang=3D"DE"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ve=
rdana",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">It also contains engines, and as deta=
il rods and their designs. I, H, blade =E2=80=93 no x-beam (seems they
never got the idea that someone could get the idea of an x-beam rod)</span=
><span lang=3D"DE"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ve=
rdana",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"DE"><u></u=
><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ve=
rdana",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">They said that F1 uses I-beam rods be=
cause they have the best stiffness to weight ratio.</span><span lang=3D"DE"=
><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ve=
rdana",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Also German DTM-cars use I-beam rods.=
</span><span lang=3D"DE"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ve=
rdana",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><a href=3D"https://en.wikipedia.org/w=
iki/Deutsche_Tourenwagen_Masters" target=3D"_blank">https://en.wikipedia.or=
g/wiki/Deutsche_Tourenwagen_Masters</a></span><span lang=3D"DE"><u></u><u><=
/u></span></p>
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rdana",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><span lang=3D"DE"><u></u=
><u></u></span></p>
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