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I couldn't agree with you more Gary. Everything you said is true, and
everyone drives these cars at the limit they choose. But most of the
folks I meet in racing--any racing--are trying to go as fast as they
can. That means respecting the cars limits and their own limits. But
they are still trying to go as fast as they can. The notion of 8/10 is
that you go eight tenths as fast as you can. If you were doing that
you wouldn't be trying to improve your lap times and you wouldn't say
things like "at least for now". There are some people driving
8/10ths. But treating that as the norm is simply not realistic.
Believe me, I don't race for trophies. If I did, I'd pick another
venue. I know there are people who get on the track to parade their
cars. I don't do that. Sounds like you don't either.
On Sep 22, 2008, at 8:26 PM, GSFuqua1@aol.com wrote:
> As a newbie in the Vintage Racing Arena I'll offer a comment. Yeah,
> I get lapped occasionally, never have been several times but I
> wouldn't care if I were. Who are we really racing and for what? In
> my opinion we race ourselves individually, we race the track and we
> race our own personally prepared equipment. Would I like to win?
> Sure but I also know my limits and try my best to avoid the red mist
> of competition. Been there and done that but many years ago and in
> sports that you usually don't have much of a chance to get killed
> in. I race to improve my own skills and do my best not to get in
> the way of others that I know are much better. At least for now. I
> also remind myself that I'm racing equipment that despite my best
> efforts to maintain and keep safe is pushing 50 years old. Things
> break..... unexpectedly. I like going Mach III with my hair on fire
> but not if I'm going to be endangering others. When you win, what
> do you get? Points or some $10. Plaque? To me winning is not
> always finishing first. First it is finishing, second it is
> improving my own lap times, lines in an out of corners and making
> some of the best friends I've ever made in my entire life. THAT is
> winning, at least to me.
>
> It is NOT my intention to be contentious or argumentative but I race
> with a lot of people too and many of them feel the same as I do.
> No, it isn't a parade but is sure isn't worth dying for either. On
> the other hand if I were to go out that way it wouldn't hurt my
> feelings one little bit. At least I would be with some of my very
> best friends and doing something I have come to love.
>
> Again just my opinion and probably not worth the time it took to
> read or write it.
>
> Gary Fuqua
> Classic Sports Cars
> Branson, MO
>
>
>
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Gary. Everything you said is true, and everyone drives these cars at the =
limit they choose. But most of the folks I meet in racing--any =
racing--are trying to go as fast as they can. That means respecting the =
cars limits and their own limits. But they are still trying to go as =
fast as they can. The notion of 8/10 is that you go eight tenths as fast =
as you can. If you were doing that you wouldn't be trying to improve =
your lap times and you wouldn't say things like "at least for now". =
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norm is simply not realistic. <div><br></div><div>Believe me, I =
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comment. Yeah, I get lapped occasionally, never have been several =
times but I wouldn't care if I were. Who are we really racing and =
for what? In my opinion we race ourselves individually, we race =
the track and we race our own personally prepared equipment. Would =
I like to win? Sure but I also know my limits and try my best to =
avoid the red mist of competition. Been there and done that but =
many years ago and in sports that you usually don't have much of a =
chance to get killed in. I race to improve my own skills and do my =
best not to get in the way of others that I know are much better. =
At least for now. I also remind myself that I'm racing equipment =
that despite my best efforts to maintain and keep safe is pushing 50 =
years old. Things break..... unexpectedly. I like going Mach =
III with my hair on fire but not if I'm going to be endangering =
others. When you win, what do you get? Points or some $10. =
Plaque? To me winning is not always finishing first. =
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an out of corners and making some of the best friends I've ever made in =
my entire life. <strong>THAT</strong> is winning, at least to =
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too and many of them feel the same as I do. No, it isn't a parade =
but is sure isn't worth dying for either. On the other hand if I =
were to go out that way it wouldn't hurt my feelings one little =
bit. At least I would be with some of my very best friends and =
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