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Hi all, a couple things come to mind here.
First, most vintage groups require towing eyes on the cars, front =
and rear. They should be clearly visable and marked; Pegasus and others =
sell "Tow" decals. Paint the tow eyes a contrasting color for easy ID. =
Make the holes 2" in diameter for easy hookup. Put two front and two =
rear and use them for tiedowns. Jack Woehrle of SVRA put out a couple of =
rants, justifiably so, a couple years ago on their web site about tow =
eyes.
Make it quicker and easier for the safety crews to hook up and go; =
may save another incident like this one.
Nextly, as far as I know, nobody has gone from vintage to F1. Are we =
getting too serioius about winning? Just a thought. Vintage is supposed =
to be about having fun; losing our fellow drivers doesn't fit that =
description. Drive your cars hard but remember that those other guys are =
probably your friends.
And the HANS is a great investment.
Hope I didn't offend anyone; not the point.
Take care, Bill ----- Original Message -----=20
From: BillDentin@aol.com=20
To: susank@141.com ; fot@autox.team.net=20
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Sad news from Road America
Jim Austhof's is sure getting a Baptism of Fire. His description, =
of course, is accurate, as is his counsel concerning the Hans devise. =
Not sure it would have been quite as effective in this case because of =
the 'side impact', but there certainly would have been increased =
stability. Vintage racing is not a high speed parade. Its risks are =
serious. The biggest thing I was reminded of is the fact that when we =
race we make a lot of split second decisions. And we don't get to do =
them over. Serious stuff!
I had raced many laps with Dr. Surjit Hermon. In my opinion, he was =
very conservative, raced at 8/10ths, and was particularly courteous to =
other racers. I was in that Friday practice session as well, and have =
to assume he may have missed a waving yellow and standing white at the =
Thunder Valley worker station. You can't see the apex to 13 coming up =
that hill, and I suspect he was surprised by the commotion and lost =
control of his car. So sad these things should happen.
As such, we choose not to do the 'missing man' pace lap in honor of =
Jack Drews on Sunday morning.
Bill Dentinger
In a message dated 9/22/2008 7:44:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, =
susank@141.com writes:
This was on the MGVR Yahoo list:
*****************************
I have sad news to report from the Vintage Fall Festival at Road =
America=20
this past weekend. We have had another fatality in the vintage =
racing=20
community. We lost driver Surjit Hermon on Friday afternoon in an=20
incident near turn 12 (under the now non existent Billy Mitchell=20
bridge). Surjit lost control of his Eastlake 11, skidded =
right-left-=20
right and impacted a Mini Cooper which was well off course and in =
the=20
process of being hooked up for a flat tow. The safety workers had =
to run=20
for their lives when they looked up from trying to find a =
attachment=20
point for the flat tow and saw a skidding car coming at them.
My second weekend as a Driver Committee Chairman - second =
fatality!
Watch your flags, remember the 80% rule, and if you were =
contemplating a=20
Hans device let this be a warning.
Jim Austhof
Red #1 MGB
*****************************
Susan
--=20
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here.</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">First, most vintage groups require =
towing eyes=20
on the cars, front and rear. They should be clearly visable and =
marked;=20
Pegasus and others sell "Tow" decals. Paint the tow eyes a =
contrasting color=20
for easy ID. Make the holes 2" in diameter for easy hookup. =
Put two=20
front and two rear and use them for tiedowns. Jack Woehrle of =
SVRA put=20
out a couple of rants, justifiably so, a couple years ago on their =
web site=20
about tow eyes.</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">Make it quicker and easier for the =
safety=20
crews to hook up and go; may save another incident like this =
one.</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">Nextly, as far as I know, nobody has =
gone from=20
vintage to F1. Are we getting too serioius about winning? Just =
a=20
thought. Vintage is supposed to be about having fun; losing our =
fellow=20
drivers doesn't fit that description. Drive your cars hard =
but remember=20
that those other guys are probably your friends.</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">And the HANS is a great =
investment.</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">Hope I didn't offend anyone; =
not the=20
point.</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">Take care, =
Bill -----=20
Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3DBillDentin@aol.com=20
href=3D"mailto:BillDentin@aol.com";>BillDentin@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dsusank@141.com =
href=3D"mailto:susank@141.com";>susank@141.com</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dfot@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 22, =
2008 9:06=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fot] Sad news =
from Road=20
America</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT id=3Drole_document face=3DArial color=3D#000000 =
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<DIV>Jim Austhof's is sure getting a Baptism of Fire. His =
description,=20
of course, is accurate, as is his counsel concerning the Hans=20
devise. Not sure it would have been quite as effective in this =
case=20
because of the 'side impact', but there certainly would have been =
increased=20
stability. Vintage racing is not a high speed parade. =
Its risks=20
are serious. The biggest thing I was reminded of is the fact =
that when=20
we race we make a lot of split second decisions. And we don't =
get to=20
do them over. Serious stuff!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I had raced many laps with Dr. Surjit Hermon. In my =
opinion, he=20
was very conservative, raced at 8/10ths, and was particularly =
courteous=20
to other racers. I was in that Friday practice session as =
well, and=20
have to assume he may have missed a waving yellow and standing white =
at the=20
Thunder Valley worker station. You can't see the apex to 13 =
coming up=20
that hill, and I suspect he was surprised by the commotion and lost =
control=20
of his car. So sad these things should happen.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>As such, we choose not to do the 'missing man' pace lap in =
honor of=20
Jack Drews on Sunday morning.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Bill Dentinger</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>In a message dated 9/22/2008 7:44:57 P.M. Central Daylight =
Time,=20
susank@141.com writes:</DIV>
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solid"><FONT=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial =
color=3D#000000 size=3D2>This=20
was on the MGVR Yahoo =
list:<BR><BR>*****************************<BR><BR>I=20
have sad news to report from the Vintage Fall Festival at Road =
America=20
<BR>this past weekend. We have had another fatality in the vintage =
racing=20
<BR>community. We lost driver Surjit Hermon on Friday afternoon in =
an=20
<BR>incident near turn 12 (under the now non existent Billy =
Mitchell=20
<BR>bridge). Surjit lost control of his Eastlake 11, skidded =
right-left-=20
<BR>right and impacted a Mini Cooper which was well off course and =
in the=20
<BR>process of being hooked up for a flat tow. The safety workers =
had to=20
run <BR>for their lives when they looked up from trying to find a=20
attachment <BR>point for the flat tow and saw a skidding car =
coming at=20
them.<BR><BR>My second weekend as a Driver Committee Chairman - =
second=20
fatality!<BR><BR>Watch your flags, remember the 80% rule, and if =
you were=20
contemplating a <BR>Hans device let this be a warning.<BR><BR>Jim=20
Austhof<BR>Red #1=20
MGB<BR><BR>*****************************<BR><BR>Susan<BR><BR>-- =
<BR>** Oh,=20
I would just KILL for a Nobel Peace Prize!=20
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