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Re: Air compressor

To: jblair@exis.net, Bricklin@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Air compressor
From: Maycinc@cs.com
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 11:32:08 EDT
John,
Go to a truck supply place (or a large truck stop) and ask for a continuous 
duty relay.  They are used alot on big trucks for lights etc.  Mine looks 
like a starter solenoid and is labeled W-R/RBM 70-111224.  It's rated at 40 
amps and only draws 5 amps from the circuit.  I've used it quiet a bit with 
no problems so far.
Marvin
#1343

In a message dated 9/21/2001 5:27:43 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
jblair@exis.net writes:


> Hey gang,
> 
>   Small progress!!!  I just finished getting the air compressor to fire!!!!
> 
> As I said in an article in The Brickline, I was going to use a relay.
> Someone on the list was saying that he did that, but he keeps burning
> up the relay.  Since my car isn't really in service, I can't give a true
> report on how well this is going to work.  I have made a small modification
> from the original schematic that I drew for the article.  I've placed some
> "despiking" or "free-wheeling" diodes across the coil of the relay and the
> compressor motor.  I don't know if this is going to make much difference
> either way though.
> 
> For the diodes, I used a diode of the 1N4001, 1N4002, 1N4003, ..., 1N4007
> family, rated at 2.5A and 1KV.  Shouldn't see any where near that amount
> of back EMF.  I also just thought that we should probably put a diode
> in the control wire line, so we don't back feed the electrical system,
> if you have to manually switch the compressor on.  Again, not a real
> problem though.
> 
> As for relays.  I don't know what the other person used, but I ended up
> buying 2 of them.  I went through a Bosch catalog and found a nice mini
> relay, rated at 40 to 50 A on the contacts.  This should be more than
> enough as Terry only has a 20A fuse in the main power line to the 
> compressor.
> 
> None of the auto parts store had "Bosch" relays.  But one had a cross ref.
> from Bosch to GP Sorensen (which they stocked).  The original relay I wanted
> they didn't cross, however, in that family of relays, they did have a cross
> ref. to a MR38.  The only drawback to this relay, is that it has both a
> Normally Open and a Normally Closed contact (SPDT), and NO mounting tab. All
> we really need for this is a SPST relay.   But it was the 1st one I'd been 
> able to find so I paid the outlandish price of $13 for it.
> 
> I've been to Radio Shack several looking for a relay to no avail.  However,
> the day after I purchase the MR38, I was in Radio Shack (to purchase the
> despiking diodes) and they had an equivilant relay (same pin out, and a 
> SPST) that can handle about 30A and has a mounting tab for $5 (much more
> reasonable).  So I bought one of them also.
> 
> My next problem was finding someplace that sold sockets for the relays.
> I tried all the auto parts store - they all said to go to a junk yard and
> cut one off of a car.  I finally found a "Fleet Supply" house in town that
> had the socket.  It wasn't bad $6.  It's a Federal Mogul 9185.  It doesn't
> have any mounting tabs either.  I think I'm going to use a wire tie and 
> mount the relay and socket to the vertical support for the front of the 
> hood extension.
> 
> So progress, while slow is made.  I guess the next step is to plumb in all
> the air line.
> 
> A short note, the magazines are at the mailers now, so they should be at
> our houses in about 2 weeks or less - hopefully.
> 
> John
> 
> John T. Blair  WA4OHZ          email:  jblair@exis.net
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