You said that you could drop in the motor from the new Si Civics, if I were
to have a 5th or 6th Generation Civic correct? Then if I had a 5th or 6th
gen civic could I throw in the Del Sol VTEC motor? Technically its the same
motor except the 99 Si is OBD-II. The B16A motor has been around since 89
in Japan. It came stock in CRXs and Civics, then in 92+, all the SiRs got
B16A with 170 hp, the 94-95( I believe those are the correct years) Del Sol
VTEC here got the 160hp, and now the 99 Civic here also gets the same motor.
Final question, if they couldn't tell what year motor you have, how could
they tell if it was legal or illegal? That would make for a cheap swap in
any 5th or 6th gen car, buy an old B16A ($400), Si hydro tranny ($?), and a
new B16A ECU, and a lot of rewiring. Thats basically a civic with a GSR
motor to compete in any stock class. Correct me if i'm wrong, thanks.
-----Original Message-----
From: Howell, J. Brett [mailto:jbh@tpghq.com]
Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 9:28 AM
To: 'Jeff Randall'
Subject: RE: CRX's
DM for engines less than 2.0L. EM for over 2.0L.
This is, of course, assuming that the engine you are dropping in was not
available from the factory with this engine as a US-spec car (japan-spec
doesn't make a difference).
On the other hand, if the engine was available from the factory in a US-spec
car that is on the same line as your car in the street prepared listings
then you can legally update/backdate the engine. For instance, the MkI and
MkII VW Sciroccos (8V) are on the same line in CSP so someone could take a
lightweight MkI Scirocco (that came with 1.7L or less engine) and drop in an
8V motor from a MkII Scirocco (1.8L). Similarly you can now drop a 2.0L
motor from a '73-'76 Porsche 914 into a lightweight '70 914 chassis.
Likewise, you could take the new DOHC 16v motor from the '99 Civic Si and
drop it into any 5th or 6th gen Si or EX in CSP.
You cannot, however, drop a DOHC Integra motor into a Civic or CRX because
they are on different lines in the street prepared listings. It sounds to me
like your proposed swap would not be legal except in Modified.
HTH.
-Brett
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Randall [mailto:jrandall@avei.com]
Sent: Friday, May 28, 1999 10:39 AM
To: autox@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: CRX's
What class would I run in if I performed a motor swap? I have done several
B16A (which came stock in CRX's in Japan) and B18A/B/C swaps into CRXs.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jesse Lipscher [mailto:jesse@mail.vgallery.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 1999 9:09 PM
To: Jeff Randall; autox@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: CRX's
An 88 CRX would be in DS, CSP, DP or DM depending on the modifications that
you've made to the car. Most street cars would be found in DS or CSP. In
DS you'll get beat by the Neons, in CSP 1st gen CRX's and RX-3's, DP could
be anything, DM is Lotus Super 7's. The 2nd gen CRX's are a very good car
for local and regional events. Nationally it hasn't been up with the top
runners too much. It is a very fun car to drive, very reliable, fairly
cheap, and parts are readily available.
Jesse
88 CRX-Si (CSP)
At 01:36 PM 5/27/99 -0700, Jeff Randall wrote:
>I was just curious
>how my 88 CRX Si could do and in what class I would run in.
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