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Re: Brakes binding and overheating.

To: Jason Raser <jasonraser@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Brakes binding and overheating.
From: bmounce@bellatlantic.net
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 19:31:02 -0500
I contacted Wilwood, the people that do specialty hot rod brake systems,
but they would not offer anything.  I'm not big into messing with
brakes, so I dropped it.  Bill

Jason Raser wrote:

> Has anyone ever heard of someone installing a
> non-Sunbeam master cylinder.  Seems like a dual
> resevoir would be somthing someone has tried.
>
> Jason
> --- Jarrid Gross <JGross@econolite.com> wrote:
> > Here is something to ponder that I have seen before
> > on alpines.
> >
> > The master cylinder requires that the reservior feed
> > hole be
> > uncovered by the piston when the brake is not
> > pressed.
> > If it is not fully un-covered, the pressure doesnt
> > relieve
> > itself in the high pressure circuits (IE brake
> > lines).
> > This anomily is an exact fit to explain your woes.
> > Ive heard of catastrophic brake seisure becuase of
> > such
> > a condition.
> >
> > Ive seen cases where the wrong MC, or too long of MC
> > actuator rod, or the MC spacer has been removed
> > without
> > consideration for the detail that I have just
> > mentioned.
> >
> >
> > Jarrid Gross
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-alpines@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:owner-alpines@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of
> > Ian Spencer
> > Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2001 1:32 PM
> > To: Al Adams
> > Cc: alpines@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: Brakes binding and overheating.
> >
> >
> > Sounds like you still have air in the line. It can
> > be very tough to get all
> > the air out after a complete rebuild when all the
> > lines have been drained.
> >
> > Al Adams wrote:
> >
> > > Many thanks to everyone who responded to my brake
> > problem.
> > >
> > > Jan's suggestion that the replacement MC may not
> > match the original
> > > seems to be answer.  I removed the new MC and took
> > it apart to inspect
> > > the "innards" and compare them to the original MC
> > that I had replaced.
> > > There were a few of the same parts, but most of
> > them were different.
> > > The outside measurements of the unit itself were
> > not the same, either.
> > >
> > > I reinstalled the original MC and took it for a
> > test drive.  After
> > > several miles of travel and with lots of extra
> > brake use, there was no
> > > binding or overheating.  Everything was
> > comparatively cool when I
> > > arrived home.  Although I've rebuilt the original
> > MC and the bore looked
> > > good at rebuild,  I still have to pump the brakes
> > to get them to hold.
> > > I guess I'll need to have it resleeved and try to
> > use it.  At $120 each,
> > > I can't afford to keep buying new MCs until I find
> > one that works.
> > >
> > > >From some of the responses I received, it looks
> > like the car should be
> > > fitted with a brake servo, but it isn't.   Should
> > I try to locate one?
> > > Are they really needed?  Could the absence of the
> > servo have anything to
> > > do with the problem of having to pump the brakes
> > with the original,
> > > rebuilt MC?  Suggestions on vendors for resleeving
> > the MC?
> > >
> > > It looks like the solution created more questions.
> >   Thanks again to
> > > everyone.
> > >
> > > Al Adams
> > > Brandon, MS

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