Re: [6pack] New Clutch

[alan salvatore via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>]

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I've used the Sachs and the Lux clutch kits with good results with the RHP
Bearing.
The key is to get the Bronze sleeve.
There has been a rash of bad stock sleeves. The tolerance is too small and
as they heat up they bind.
I recently got one the wouldn't even fit on the  transmission snout.

Al

On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 2:11 PM, James_ via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Correction...
> In 2000 I bought a LUX kit from TRF. I paid $139. I doubt it came with th=
e
> Gunst style bearing. BPNW carries that bearing and brass sleeve for $130
> part number GRB211HD. Not sure which pressure plate and clutch disk to bu=
y
> to go with the Gunst bearing if that setup is desired. So confusing.
> All I know is when I bought the 3 piece LUX kit and the pilot bushing,
> everything seems to work great. On TRF site. Blue book. There is a listin=
g
> for a Laycock brand 3 piece set for $184 RFK116. Must be what I bought bu=
t
> the prices have climbed. I had a fourth gear shaft to use for alignment. =
So
> I didn't need the 5 piece LUX set currently being sold by BPNW.
>
> So it seems the vote is to find an original Laycock clutch set. I saw one
> sell on eBay not long ago for close to the price of the magic clutch set.
> Not clear which plate and bearing to use with an original pressure plate.=
 I
> read the original clutch will have aged and need new silicon grease packe=
d
> somewhere...the clutch plate springs? Again, confusing.
>
> So I am still not sure what would be the best clutch set.
>
> Also, I read about aligning the transmission to the engine...what does
> that entail beyond lining the locating pins and bell housing bolts. Seems
> to me there is no room for mis-alignment! Wow. I must have gotten lucky.
>
> I should mention, I replaced my clutch because of chatter felt in the rea=
r
> end / transmission when I let the clutch out. Something was not releasing=
.
> Bearing, loose clutch plate...something. But the kit I installed in 2000
> fixed it.
>
> So what is the best solution???
> A mix of Gunst bearing and original pressure plates?
>
> =E2=80=94Sent from my Atari 2600=E2=80=94
>
> On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:25 PM, "James_ via 6pack" <6pack@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Steve and all.
>
> I believe I went with the Sachs and gunst bearing last time I was
> addressing chatter / vibrating clutch when I released the pedal. That was
> back in 1999 and many many miles ago. I plan to double check - as my setu=
p
> works awesome.
>
>
> =E2=80=94Sent from my Atari 2600=E2=80=94
>
> On Nov 9, 2015, at 3:25 PM, "Steve Kirsis via 6pack" <6pack@autox.team.ne=
t>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 9, 2015 11:28 AM, Steve Kirsis <stevekirsis@yahoo.com=
>
> wrote:
>
>
> Dale, If you can get a copy of Nelson Reidel's piece on a 100,000 mile
> clutch it would be worth your while. A combo of cross drilling to improve
> the fork stability, a Sachs pressure plate and Gunst throw out bearing is
> the main theme. I do believe I still have the piece but see if you can pi=
ck
> it up thru the 6-Pack. Ashford Little might be able to dig it up for you.
> We both have the system in our Sixes with fantastic results. I have
> installed this package on 3 TR'S. A beautiful working smooth clutch.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 9, 2015 10:22 AM, Dale Katzfey via 6pack <
> 6pack@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> OK, now that it was determined that I should replace the clutch, what
> does everyone like?  I was thinking about using TRF Magic Clutch.
>
> Any opinions out there?
>
> Dale
> 74 TR6
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I&#39;ve used the Sachs and the Lux clutch kits with =
good results with the RHP Bearing.</div><div>The key is to get the Bronze s=
leeve.</div><div>There has been a rash of bad stock sleeves. The tolerance =
is too=C2=A0small and as they heat up they bind.</div><div>I recently got o=
ne the wouldn&#39;t even=C2=A0fit on the=C2=A0 transmission snout.</div><di=
v><br></div><div>Al</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 2:11 PM, James_ via 6pack <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">6pac=
k@autox.team.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
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<div>Correction...</div>
<div>In 2000 I bought a LUX kit from TRF. I paid $139. I doubt it came with=
 the Gunst style bearing. BPNW carries that bearing and brass sleeve for $1=
30 part number GRB211HD. Not sure which pressure plate and clutch disk to b=
uy to go with the Gunst bearing
 if that setup is desired. So confusing.=C2=A0</div>
<div>All I know is when I bought the 3 piece LUX kit and the pilot bushing,=
 everything seems to work great. On TRF site. Blue book. There is a listing=
 for a Laycock brand 3 piece set for $184 RFK116. Must be what I bought but=
 the prices have climbed. I had
 a fourth gear shaft to use for alignment. So I didn&#39;t need the 5 piece=
 LUX set currently being sold by BPNW.=C2=A0</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So it seems the vote is to find an original Laycock clutch set. I saw =
one sell on eBay not long ago for close to the price of the magic clutch se=
t. Not clear which plate and bearing to use with an original pressure plate=
. I read the original clutch will
 have aged and need new silicon grease packed somewhere...the clutch plate =
springs? Again, confusing.=C2=A0</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So I am still not sure what would be the best clutch set.=C2=A0</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Also, I read about aligning the transmission to the engine...what does=
 that entail beyond lining the locating pins and bell housing bolts. Seems =
to me there is no room for mis-alignment! Wow. I must have gotten lucky.=C2=
=A0</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I should mention, I replaced my clutch because of chatter felt in the =
rear end / transmission when I let the clutch out. Something was not releas=
ing. Bearing, loose clutch plate...something. But the kit I installed in 20=
00 fixed it. =C2=A0</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So what is the best solution???</div>
<div>A mix of Gunst bearing and original pressure plates?<span><br>
<div><br>
</div>
=E2=80=94Sent from my Atari 2600=E2=80=94</span></div><div><div class=3D"h5=
">
<div><br>
On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:25 PM, &quot;James_ via 6pack&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:6pack@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">6pack@autox.team.net</a>&gt; w=
rote:<br>
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<div>
<div>Hi Steve and all.=C2=A0</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I believe I went with the Sachs and gunst bearing last time I was addr=
essing chatter / vibrating clutch when I released the pedal. That was back =
in 1999 and many many miles ago. I plan to double check - as my setup works=
 awesome.=C2=A0<br>
<br>
<div><br>
</div>
=E2=80=94Sent from my Atari 2600=E2=80=94</div>
<div><br>
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<div><span>Dale, If you can get a copy of Nelson Reidel&#39;s piece on a 10=
0,000 mile clutch it would be worth your while. A combo of cross drilling t=
o improve the
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main theme. I do believe I still have the piece but see if you can pick it =
up thru the 6-Pack. Ashford Little might be able to dig it up for you. We b=
oth have the system in our Sixes
 with fantastic results. I have installed this package on 3 TR&#39;S. A bea=
utiful working smooth clutch.</span></div>
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