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Subject: Re: [6pack] New Clutch
From: James_ via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2015 19:11:31 +0000
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Correction...
In 2000 I bought a LUX kit from TRF. I paid $139. I doubt it came with the =
Gunst style bearing. BPNW carries that bearing and brass sleeve for $130 pa=
rt number GRB211HD. Not sure which pressure plate and clutch disk to buy to=
 go with the Gunst bearing if that setup is desired. So confusing.
All I know is when I bought the 3 piece LUX kit and the pilot bushing, ever=
ything seems to work great. On TRF site. Blue book. There is a listing for =
a Laycock brand 3 piece set for $184 RFK116. Must be what I bought but the =
prices have climbed. I had a fourth gear shaft to use for alignment. So I d=
idn't need the 5 piece LUX set currently being sold by BPNW.

So it seems the vote is to find an original Laycock clutch set. I saw one s=
ell on eBay not long ago for close to the price of the magic clutch set. No=
t clear which plate and bearing to use with an original pressure plate. I r=
ead the original clutch will have aged and need new silicon grease packed s=
omewhere...the clutch plate springs? Again, confusing.

So I am still not sure what would be the best clutch set.

Also, I read about aligning the transmission to the engine...what does that=
 entail beyond lining the locating pins and bell housing bolts. Seems to me=
 there is no room for mis-alignment! Wow. I must have gotten lucky.

I should mention, I replaced my clutch because of chatter felt in the rear =
end / transmission when I let the clutch out. Something was not releasing. =
Bearing, loose clutch plate...something. But the kit I installed in 2000 fi=
xed it.

So what is the best solution???
A mix of Gunst bearing and original pressure plates?

-Sent from my Atari 2600-

On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:25 PM, "James_ via 6pack" <6pack@autox.team.net<mailt=
o:6pack@autox.team.net>> wrote:

Hi Steve and all.

I believe I went with the Sachs and gunst bearing last time I was addressin=
g chatter / vibrating clutch when I released the pedal. That was back in 19=
99 and many many miles ago. I plan to double check - as my setup works awes=
ome.


-Sent from my Atari 2600-

On Nov 9, 2015, at 3:25 PM, "Steve Kirsis via 6pack" <6pack@autox.team.net<=
mailto:6pack@autox.team.net>> wrote:




On Monday, November 9, 2015 11:28 AM, Steve Kirsis <stevekirsis@yahoo.com<m=
ailto:stevekirsis@yahoo.com>> wrote:


Dale, If you can get a copy of Nelson Reidel's piece on a 100,000 mile clut=
ch it would be worth your while. A combo of cross drilling to improve the f=
ork stability, a Sachs pressure plate and Gunst throw out bearing is the ma=
in theme. I do believe I still have the piece but see if you can pick it up=
 thru the 6-Pack. Ashford Little might be able to dig it up for you. We bot=
h have the system in our Sixes with fantastic results. I have installed thi=
s package on 3 TR'S. A beautiful working smooth clutch.





On Monday, November 9, 2015 10:22 AM, Dale Katzfey via 6pack <6pack@autox.t=


OK, now that it was determined that I should replace the clutch, what
does everyone like?  I was thinking about using TRF Magic Clutch.

Any opinions out there?

Dale
74 TR6
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<div>Correction...</div>
<div>In 2000 I bought a LUX kit from TRF. I paid $139. I doubt it came with=
 the Gunst style bearing. BPNW carries that bearing and brass sleeve for $1=
30 part number GRB211HD. Not sure which pressure plate and clutch disk to b=
uy to go with the Gunst bearing
 if that setup is desired. So confusing.&nbsp;</div>
<div>All I know is when I bought the 3 piece LUX kit and the pilot bushing,=
 everything seems to work great. On TRF site. Blue book. There is a listing=
 for a Laycock brand 3 piece set for $184 RFK116. Must be what I bought but=
 the prices have climbed. I had
 a fourth gear shaft to use for alignment. So I didn't need the 5 piece LUX=
 set currently being sold by BPNW.&nbsp;</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So it seems the vote is to find an original Laycock clutch set. I saw =
one sell on eBay not long ago for close to the price of the magic clutch se=
t. Not clear which plate and bearing to use with an original pressure plate=
. I read the original clutch will
 have aged and need new silicon grease packed somewhere...the clutch plate =
springs? Again, confusing.&nbsp;</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So I am still not sure what would be the best clutch set.&nbsp;</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Also, I read about aligning the transmission to the engine...what does=
 that entail beyond lining the locating pins and bell housing bolts. Seems =
to me there is no room for mis-alignment! Wow. I must have gotten lucky.&nb=
sp;</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I should mention, I replaced my clutch because of chatter felt in the =
rear end / transmission when I let the clutch out. Something was not releas=
ing. Bearing, loose clutch plate...something. But the kit I installed in 20=
00 fixed it. &nbsp;</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So what is the best solution???</div>
<div>A mix of Gunst bearing and original pressure plates?<br>
<div><br>
</div>
&#8212;Sent from my Atari 2600&#8212;</div>
<div><br>
On Nov 10, 2015, at 7:25 PM, &quot;James_ via 6pack&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:6pack@autox.team.net">6pack@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Steve and all.&nbsp;</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I believe I went with the Sachs and gunst bearing last time I was addr=
essing chatter / vibrating clutch when I released the pedal. That was back =
in 1999 and many many miles ago. I plan to double check - as my setup works=
 awesome.&nbsp;<br>
<br>
<div><br>
</div>
&#8212;Sent from my Atari 2600&#8212;</div>
<div><br>
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on Reidel's piece on a 100,000 mile clutch it would be worth your while. A =
combo of cross drilling to improve the
 fork stability, a Sachs pressure plate and Gunst throw out bearing is the =
main theme. I do believe I still have the piece but see if you can pick it =
up thru the 6-Pack. Ashford Little might be able to dig it up for you. We b=
oth have the system in our Sixes
 with fantastic results. I have installed this package on 3 TR'S. A beautif=
ul working smooth clutch.</span></div>
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