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Something sounds off. That said we=E2=80=99re facing a similar situation wi=
th our
=E2=80=9898 F150 which has the 4.6 Triton V8. It started consuming coolant =
several
months ago. No leaks anywhere, diagnosed as a blown head gasket in one of
the cylinders. If I was younger and had a decent place to do a top end
rebuild, I=E2=80=99d probably tackle it myself, but neither is the case, so=
=E2=80=A6!
The shop I use quoted us $8500 to install a remanned long block, from
Jasper I think. We will probably have that done in the next month or so.
Both Jasper and ATK have solid reputations, with 100K/3 year warranties.
We=E2=80=99ll have a one year warranty on the installation. If anyone has c=
hecked
used truck prices (or used vehicles, period) recently, they=E2=80=99re outr=
ageous!
The independent Honda shop in DFW we used for years recommends ATK. Doing a
ring job on Hondas is iffy since the blocks are aluminum. Used Honda prices
are as crazy as truck prices! It=E2=80=99s a tough call, but in your case, =
and
ours, putting that much money in a known solid vehicle is definitely worth
serious consideration, IMO.
HTH,
Ron
On Thu, Nov 20, 2025 at 10:51=E2=80=AFAM Jim Juhas <james.f.juhas@snet.net>=
wrote:
> With that much oil loss, a compression test itself would be revealing. Th=
e
> various diagnostic tests that I saw suggested are all good paths to take =
as
> well. Although unlikely I would also look at the coolant for signs of oil=
.
> But given the sudden occurrence I would expect a broken part, e.g., ring,
> piston, gasket. If I were doing an engine rebuild, with doing the labor
> myself, I would expect a cost of 3000 to 4000 in machine work and parts
> based on my recent experiences with race engines for my MGA. But there ar=
e
> lots of these cars so used engines might be available.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 20, 2025, at 6:54=E2=80=AFAM, Moose <eric@megageek.com> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BFI forgot the most important part, engine has about 154,000 mile=
s.
>
> Moose
>
>
>
> My SO has a daily driver of a 2000 Honda Accord EX with a 2.3L I4 F OHV
> engine. She loves this car, and it's in REALLY great shape. She has had
> the car for a little over 3 years and she changes the oil every 3000 mile=
s
> faithfully. The only problem, about a month or so ago the SR5 and check
> engine light came on. I got the codes and it was coming on the evap leak=
.
> As I was looking for into it, it seemed to be a problem to diagnose (need
> smoke generator, computers to turn on an off relays) and my time has been
> split with lots of other projects. So I made an appointment with my loca=
l
> trusted mechanic. Note, recently we also got her another car, so she
> switches between them and this isn't a daily, but semi-daily driver.
>
> Then 2 days ago, the oil light comes on. She checks the oil, the stick i=
s
> dry! She puts some oil in (it takes 3 qts to come up to full.) Then drive=
s
> home. I check it the next morning. A qt low. So we take it out for a
> short ride. No blue smoke under load, no white smoke. Very faint smell =
of
> burning oil. No leaks anywhere. I did an oil change in March, and she
> hasn't put 3000 miles on it yet.
>
> For a last hope, I check the intake hoping to find oil in it and maybe
> it's just an erg valve. No oil. 8>( So, car is burning oil. I do some
> research and find that some Hondas had issues with rings.
>
> OK, a ring job is more than likely more than the car is worth, but here i=
s
> the rub. The car is in great shape, and she LOVES the car. So I'd be
> willing to put money into it, even if it was more than it was worth as sh=
e
> would want to keep this one for a long time.
>
> My questions are...
>
> Is there anything else I can check? (Note, I don't think I'll see a
> problem with compression testing as the oil can still 'seal up' the
> cylinders, right?)
> Could this be related to the codes? (I don't believe so, but I'm not that
> well versed on Hondas.)
>
> Would a ring job be better than a re-manufactured engine?
>
> Has anyone ever put a re-manufactured engine in a Honda? I did one in my
> Jeep decades ago and it went well.
>
> Thanks. _______________________________________________
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Something sounds off. That said we=E2=80=99re facing a si=
milar situation with our =E2=80=9898 F150 which has the 4.6 Triton V8. It s=
tarted consuming coolant several months ago. No leaks anywhere, diagnosed a=
s a blown head gasket in one of the cylinders.=C2=A0<span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:-apple-system,sans-serif">If I was younger and had a decent place to do=
a top end rebuild, I=E2=80=99d probably tackle it myself, but neither is t=
he case, so=E2=80=A6!</span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:-apple-system,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span styl=
e=3D"font-family:-apple-system,sans-serif">The shop I use quoted us $8500 t=
o install a remanned long block, from Jasper I think. We will probably have=
that done in the next month or so. Both Jasper and ATK have solid reputati=
ons, with 100K/3 year warranties. We=E2=80=99ll have a one year warranty on=
the installation. If anyone has checked used truck prices (or used vehicle=
s, period) recently, they=E2=80=99re outrageous!</span></div><div dir=3D"au=
to"><span style=3D"font-family:-apple-system,sans-serif"><br></span></div><=
div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:-apple-system,sans-serif">The i=
ndependent Honda shop in DFW we used for years recommends ATK. Doing a ring=
job on Hondas is iffy since the blocks are aluminum. Used Honda prices are=
as crazy as truck prices! It=E2=80=99s a tough call, but in your case, and=
ours, putting that much money in a known solid vehicle is definitely worth=
serious consideration, IMO.</span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:-apple-system,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div dir=3D"auto"><sp=
an style=3D"font-family:-apple-system,sans-serif">HTH,</span></div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:-apple-system,sans-serif">Ron</span></=
div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"l=
tr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 20, 2025 at 10:51=E2=80=AFAM Jim Juhas=
<<a href=3D"mailto:james.f.juhas@snet.net";>james.f.juhas@snet.net</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">With th=
at much oil loss, a compression test itself would be revealing. The various=
diagnostic tests that I saw suggested are all good paths to take as well. =
Although unlikely I would also look at the coolant for signs of oil. But gi=
ven the sudden occurrence I would expect a broken part, e.g., ring, piston,=
gasket. If I were doing an engine rebuild, with doing the labor myself, I =
would expect a cost of 3000 to 4000 in machine work and parts based on my r=
ecent experiences with race engines for my MGA. But there are lots of these=
cars so used engines might be available.=C2=A0<div>=C2=A0<br id=3D"m_-8982=
288896734751617lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from =
my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Nov 20, 20=
25, at 6:54=E2=80=AFAM, Moose <<a href=3D"mailto:eric@megageek.com"; targ=
et=3D"_blank">eric@megageek.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<font size=3D"2" face=3D"=
sans-serif">I forgot the most important part, =C2=A0engine
has about 154,000 miles.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Moose</font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">My SO has a daily driver of a =C2=
=A02000
Honda Accord EX with a 2.3L I4 F OHV engine.=C2=A0 She loves this car,
and it's in REALLY great shape. She has had the car for a little over 3
years and she changes the oil every 3000 miles faithfully. =C2=A0 The only
problem, about a month or so ago the SR5 and check engine light came on.
=C2=A0I got the codes and it was coming on the evap leak.=C2=A0 As I was
looking for into it, it seemed to be a problem to diagnose (need smoke
generator, computers to turn on an off relays) and my time has been split
with lots of other projects.=C2=A0 So I made an appointment with my local
trusted mechanic.=C2=A0 Note, recently we also got her another car, so
she switches between them and this isn't a daily, but semi-daily driver=
.</font><font size=3D"3">
<br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Then 2 days ago, the oil light comes on.=C2=A0 She checks the oil, the
stick is dry! She puts some oil in (it takes 3 qts to come up to full.)
Then drives home.=C2=A0 I check it the next morning.=C2=A0 A qt low.=C2=A0 =
So
we take it out for a short ride.=C2=A0 No blue smoke under load, no white
smoke.=C2=A0 Very faint smell of burning oil.=C2=A0 No leaks anywhere.
=C2=A0 I did an oil change in March, and she hasn't put 3000 miles on i=
t
yet. =C2=A0</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
For a last hope, I check the intake hoping to find oil in it and maybe
it's just an erg valve.=C2=A0 No oil. 8>( So, car is burning oil.=C2=
=A0 I
do some research and find that some Hondas had issues with rings. </font><f=
ont size=3D"3"><br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
OK, a ring job is more than likely more than the car is worth, but here
is the rub.=C2=A0 The car is in great shape, and she LOVES the car.=C2=A0 S=
o
I'd be willing to put money into it, even if it was more than it was wo=
rth
as she would want to keep this one for a long time. </font><font size=3D"3"=
><br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
My questions are...</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Is there anything else I can check? =C2=A0(Note, I don't think I'll=
see
a problem with compression testing as the oil can still 'seal up' t=
he cylinders,
right?) <br>
Could this be related to the codes? (I don't believe so, but I'm no=
t that
well versed on Hondas.)</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Would a ring job be better than a re-manufactured engine?</font><font size=
=3D"3">
<br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Has anyone ever put a re-manufactured engine in a Honda?=C2=A0 I did one
in my Jeep decades ago and it went well.</font><font size=3D"3"> <br>
</font><font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
Thanks.</font><font size=3D"3"> </font><tt><font size=3D"2">_______________=
________________________________<br>
<br>
</font></tt>
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