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And I think the real purpose of a freeze plug is to leak and lead to
impromptu coolant changes. I've never seen one pop out and save a block.
Though I did have an engine freeze once and *not* crack the block--it just
messed up everything else.
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 11:51 AM Phil Ethier <pethier7@gmail.com> wrote:
> You need to see the part of itself and not just the paperwork.
>
> Has anyone ever actually seen a freeze plug save an engine block?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 14, 2021, at 11:21 AM, Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal@gmail.com=
>
> wrote:
> >
> > =EF=BB=BF
> > This is mostly theory.
> >
> > One of my staff wants to stick a frost heater in his car--it's a Kia
> with a 3.3L engine (though I don't think that matters for the question).
> >
> > Since he thinks I'm a car guy--which in his head means I know everythin=
g
> about all cars--he's asking for help.
> >
> > He brought in the instructions and the heater itself. The instructions
> are pretty simple: drain coolant, "remove plug" (quotes mine--it just say=
s
> "plug", so I'm assuming that's a freeze/expansion plug), screw in heater,
> refill coolant, etc.
> >
> > The heater to install is threaded. It says to torque it to 30 lb. ft.
> >
> > The plug he's removing probably isn't...I'd think.
> >
> > Obviously without rolling under the car, who knows? But I'm tempted to
> tell him to not start--the only way I know to remove a freeze plug is to
> drill a hole in it, then pull it out with something. If there are no
> threads behind it--and I can't imagine that a press-in freeze plug presse=
s
> in to a threaded hole--then he's just going to need a new freeze plug to
> reinstall.
> >
> > So I guess my questions to the list are:
> >
> > 1) anyone ever see a threaded freeze plug? That would seem to defeat th=
e
> whole purpose of allowing it to pop out.
> >
> > 2) anyone ever see threads behind a freeze plug? Perhaps the plug
> presses into a smooth port, and there are threads behind it?
> >
> > We called the manufacturer who confirmed that the part number is
> correct. It's used on several models so they couldn't say for sure other
> than, "it'll work". I'd hate to see this kid pull out a freeze plug then =
be
> screwed.
> >
> > YouTube similarly has nothing relevant.
> >
> > Anybody have any experience with this before I just have him drive over
> and roll under the car to see what I'm looking at?
> >
> > Thanks.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">And I think the real purpose of a freeze plug is to leak a=
nd lead to impromptu coolant changes. I've never seen one pop out and s=
ave a block.<div><br></div><div>Though I did have an engine freeze once and=
*not* crack the block--it just messed up everything else.</div></div><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan=
14, 2021 at 11:51 AM Phil Ethier <<a href=3D"mailto:pethier7@gmail.com"=
>pethier7@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding-left:1ex">You need to see the part of itself and not just the pape=
rwork.<br>
<br>
Has anyone ever actually seen a freeze plug save an engine block?<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
<br>
> On Jan 14, 2021, at 11:21 AM, Scott Hall <<a href=3D"mailto:scott.h=
all.personal@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">scott.hall.personal@gmail.com</a>=
> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> =EF=BB=BF<br>
> This is mostly theory.<br>
> <br>
> One of my staff wants to stick a frost heater in his car--it's a K=
ia with a 3.3L engine (though I don't think that matters for the questi=
on).<br>
> <br>
> Since he thinks I'm a car guy--which in his head means I know ever=
ything about all cars--he's asking for help.<br>
> <br>
> He brought in the instructions and the heater itself. The instructions=
are pretty simple: drain coolant, "remove plug" (quotes mine--it=
just says "plug", so I'm assuming that's a freeze/expans=
ion plug), screw in heater, refill coolant, etc.<br>
> <br>
> The heater to install is threaded. It says to torque it to 30 lb. ft.<=
br>
> <br>
> The plug he's removing probably isn't...I'd think.<br>
> <br>
> Obviously without rolling under the car, who knows? But I'm tempte=
d to tell him to not start--the only way I know to remove a freeze plug is =
to drill a hole in it, then pull it out with something. If there are no thr=
eads behind it--and I can't imagine that a press-in freeze plug presses=
in to a threaded hole--then he's just going to need a new freeze plug =
to reinstall.<br>
> <br>
> So I guess my questions to the list are:<br>
> <br>
> 1) anyone ever see a threaded freeze plug? That would seem to defeat t=
he whole purpose of allowing it to pop out.<br>
> <br>
> 2) anyone ever see threads behind a freeze plug? Perhaps the plug pres=
ses into a smooth port, and there are threads behind it?<br>
> <br>
> We called the manufacturer who confirmed that the part number is corre=
ct. It's used on several models so they couldn't say for sure other=
than, "it'll work". I'd hate to see this kid pull out a =
freeze plug then be screwed.<br>
> <br>
> YouTube similarly has nothing relevant.<br>
> <br>
> Anybody have any experience with this before I just have him drive ove=
r and roll under the car to see what I'm looking at?<br>
> <br>
> Thanks.<br>
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