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There are different styles of those heaters. Some intended to install in a
freeze plug, some intended for go in a radiator hose, and some intended to
go in place of a drain plug or port plug. It sounds like he has one that
is meant to go in a drain plug?
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 11:22 AM Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal@gmail.com>
wrote:
> This is mostly theory.
>
> One of my staff wants to stick a frost heater in his car--it's a Kia with
> a 3.3L engine (though I don't think that matters for the question).
>
> Since he thinks I'm a car guy--which in his head means I know everything
> about all cars--he's asking for help.
>
> He brought in the instructions and the heater itself. The instructions are
> pretty simple: drain coolant, "remove plug" (quotes mine--it just says
> "plug", so I'm assuming that's a freeze/expansion plug), screw in heater,
> refill coolant, etc.
>
> The heater to install is threaded. It says to torque it to 30 lb. ft.
>
> The plug he's removing probably isn't...I'd think.
>
> Obviously without rolling under the car, who knows? But I'm tempted to
> tell him to not start--the only way I know to remove a freeze plug is to
> drill a hole in it, then pull it out with something. If there are no
> threads behind it--and I can't imagine that a press-in freeze plug presses
> in to a threaded hole--then he's just going to need a new freeze plug to
> reinstall.
>
> So I guess my questions to the list are:
>
> 1) anyone ever see a threaded freeze plug? That would seem to defeat the
> whole purpose of allowing it to pop out.
>
> 2) anyone ever see threads behind a freeze plug? Perhaps the plug presses
> into a smooth port, and there are threads behind it?
>
> We called the manufacturer who confirmed that the part number is correct.
> It's used on several models so they couldn't say for sure other than,
> "it'll work". I'd hate to see this kid pull out a freeze plug then be
> screwed.
>
> YouTube similarly has nothing relevant.
>
> Anybody have any experience with this before I just have him drive over
> and roll under the car to see what I'm looking at?
>
> Thanks.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">There are different styles of those heaters.=C2=A0 Some in=
tended to install in a freeze plug, some intended for go in a radiator hose=
, and some intended to go in place of a drain plug or port plug.=C2=A0 It s=
ounds like he has one that is meant to go in a drain plug?<br></div><br><di=
v class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jan 1=
4, 2021 at 11:22 AM Scott Hall <<a href=3D"mailto:scott.hall.personal@gm=
ail.com">scott.hall.personal@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote =
class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px sol=
id rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">This is mostly theor=
y.<div><br></div><div>One of my staff wants to stick a frost heater in his =
car--it's a Kia with a 3.3L engine (though I don't think that matte=
rs for the question).</div><div><br></div><div>Since he thinks I'm a ca=
r guy--which in his head means I know everything about all cars--he's a=
sking for help.</div><div><br></div><div>He brought in the instructions=C2=
=A0and the heater itself. The instructions are pretty simple: drain coolant=
, "remove plug" (quotes mine--it just says "plug", so I=
'm assuming that's a freeze/expansion plug), screw in heater, refil=
l coolant, etc.</div><div><br></div><div>The heater to install is threaded.=
It says to torque it to 30 lb. ft.</div><div><br></div><div>The plug he=
9;s removing probably isn't...I'd think.</div><div><br></div><div>O=
bviously without rolling under the car, who knows? But I'm tempted to t=
ell him to not start--the only way I know to remove a freeze plug is to dri=
ll a hole in it, then pull it out with something. If there are no threads b=
ehind it--and I can't imagine that a press-in freeze plug presses in to=
a threaded hole--then he's just going to need a new freeze plug to rei=
nstall.</div><div><br></div><div>So I guess my questions to the list are:</=
div><div><br></div><div>1) anyone ever see a threaded freeze plug? That wou=
ld seem to defeat the whole purpose of allowing it to pop out.</div><div><b=
r></div><div>2) anyone ever see threads behind a freeze plug? Perhaps the p=
lug presses into a smooth port, and there are threads behind it?</div><div>=
<br></div><div>We called the manufacturer who confirmed that the part numbe=
r is correct. It's used on several models so they couldn't say for =
sure other than, "it'll work". I'd hate to see this kid p=
ull out a freeze plug then be screwed.</div><div><br></div><div>YouTube sim=
ilarly has nothing relevant.</div><div><br></div><div>Anybody have any expe=
rience with this before I just have him drive over and roll under the car t=
o see what I'm looking at?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks.</div></div>
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