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My DeWalt 1/2" impact wrench has to work at it, but it'll spin the
lugnuts off my Mustang wheels (torque spec for the nuts is 150lb-ft).
On 1/11/2021 9:20 AM, Karl Vacek wrote:
> About 2000 I decided to take the plunge into a decent cordless
> drill/driver. I opted for a 14.4 volt DeWalt over their much heavier
> 18 volt. Built my hangar, did loads of remodeling, on and on.
> Battery life was ok till the NiCad haunts set in, and after one
> replacement set of DeWalt originals I switched to Amazon or eBay NiMH
> knockoff packs and had great luck.
>
> Recently we've been adding onto the house and remodeling, and after
> watching various subcontractors I just had to have a 1/4" impact
> driver and a hammer drill. Old loyalty to DeWalt was strong, but I
> eventually spent a touch more for Milwaukee Fuel. Before Christmas I
> got a combination kit with the best hammer drill and best impact
> driver, three 5AH Red Lithium batteries, and a charger. $450.
>
> I felt bad about spending the money, but after installing a floor in
> the attic, rebuilding a wall downstairs, running loads of screws, and
> then taking the impact out to work on the cars and snowblowers a few
> times, I wish I'd bought this years ago.
>
> Battery life is incredible. Hours of work and I've only recharged
> batteries once, when I got down to 2 bars, and I still haven't even
> opened the third battery.
>
> Power is incredible. The impact won't take off lug nuts, but then I
> haven't actually tried. I'm sure (once I buy one) the 1/2" will beat
> the pants off my disappointing HF Earthquake 1/2" impact.
>
> Close to a religious experience. Highly recommended.
>
> On January 11, 2021 10:45:30 AM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Others have said it, but I'll reiterate: Pick a battery/voltage, then
>> acquire the tools that go with it. If you get a cordless drill,
>> eventually you'll want a cordless impact 'wrench'--for lug nuts if
>> nothing else--a 'sawzall' (equivalent), a circular saw, etc. Buy a
>> combo kit, with a battery and charger included, to start.
>>
>> I went with DeWalt 20V 'XR' brushless, because of mostly positive
>> reviews and, whether it's merit or good product placement by the
>> marketeers (probably both), they seem to be the most popular among
>> the mechanics, farmers, etc. on the quasi-reality TV shows (Stihl
>> gets the nod for gas chainsaws, with Husqvarna second). I bought a
>> cordless DeWalt hedger, slightly discounted because it was a display
>> model, thinking "Sure, it'll do a couple bushes then quit," but we
>> did my mom's whole (large) backyard on a single 4Ah battery. The tool
>> that drains the battery fastest is my 4&1/2" angle
>> grinder/sander/wirebrusher, probably because it runs more
>> continuously and has an 'open circuit' load; I get about 20mins on a
>> 4Ah battery.
>>
>> I have a full complement of pneumatic and corded electric tools--many
>> are Harbor Freight, for occasional use--that are mostly collecting
>> dust these days; it's just not worth unraveling an extension cord or
>> firing up the compressor for a quick, one-off job . One of my faves
>> is an old Makita 9V driver/drill, which can't hold a candle for power
>> to the DeWalt--and replacement Chinese batteries are hit-or-miss--but
>> it keeps soldiering-on. Makita stuff is top-notch, but I haven't seen
>> the variety of tools--doesn't mean they don't have them--that DeWalt,
>> Milwaukee, etc. have on display.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> On 1/11/2021 5:38 AM, Tim . wrote:
>>> I didn't say I was going to spend 320. I said "if necessary".
>>>
>>> I already have a mitre saw. In fact, I have a full shop including
>>> 80-gallon compressor, blast cabinet, parts washer, panel beating
>>> tools, and a boat load of hand tools.
>>>
>>> I simply want the best cordless drill/screw driver out there. My
>>> experience with ryobi is that they don't hold up to even how much I
>>> use them.
>>>
>>> tim
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* John T. Blair <jblair1948@cox.net>
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:09 PM
>>> *To:* Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] Cordless drill/screw driver
>>> At 10:58 AM 1/10/2021, Tim wrote:
>>>
>>> >I have a $100 menards rebate check and a $60 rebate visa card that
>>> are both
>>> >burning a hole in my pocket. Also, I have the 15% "anything you can
>>> fit in the
>>> >bag" sale bag. I figure $160 is a good starting point and am
>>> willing to at least
>>> >match that 160 or more if necessary to get the best out there right
>>> now.
>>>
>>> ......
>>>
>>> >I am not worried about a little heavier than most as I am not
>>> contractor and this
>>> >won't get used every day. I am just getting tired of dragging
>>> cords. I'd like
>>> >whatever I get to be the start of going all cordless (skill saw,
>>> Sawzall, etc).
>>>
>>> Tim,
>>>
>>> If you are not going to be using it every day, why do you want to
>>> spend a ton of
>>> money on a cordless drill. You say you have $160 burning a hole in
>>> your pocket
>>> and are willing to put another $160 to that. Man that $320!!!! You
>>> can get a
>>> Roybi or such for say $100. Usually around Xmas which you just
>>> missed, you can
>>> get a Roybi kit with a drill, saw, and another tool for less than
>>> $150. That's where
>>> I'd put the first $160. Then I'd look at something else like a
>>> sliding compound
>>> miter saw, or a nail gun or two, or some other tools.
>>>
>>> Now that being said, let me say I buy a lot of Harbor Freight
>>> tools. And for the
>>> occassional use they work well. I have a $25 ish oscillating saw,
>>> which I've used
>>> for something over 5 yrs. It just died in the middle of a remodel
>>> in a bedroom.
>>> So I bought another. Especially if you don't know what you're going
>>> to use it for.
>>> I also have a cheap $20 H.F. recriprocating saw that has paid for
>>> it's self. If I'd
>>> have bought a $100 to $300 version of either of these tools, I'd
>>> never had really
>>> gotten my money worth out of the tool. I'm 72 and it's getting
>>> harder and harder
>>> every day for me to do a lot of the things I used to do, like bend
>>> over. :) So why
>>> should I pay for a tool that would last me for the next 30 years or
>>> so, if I'm only
>>> going to be around for another 10 years?
>>>
>>> Spend a little less money on a tool, and get more of them.
>>> Especially if it not your
>>> bread and butter.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>> 2
>>>
>>
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My DeWalt 1/2" impact wrench has to work at it, but it'll spin the
lugnuts off my Mustang wheels (torque spec for the nuts is
150lb-ft).<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/11/2021 9:20 AM, Karl Vacek wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">About 2000 I decided to take the plunge into a
decent cordless drill/driver. I opted for a 14.4 volt DeWalt
over their much heavier 18 volt. Built my hangar, did loads
of remodeling, on and on. Battery life was ok till the NiCad
haunts set in, and after one replacement set of DeWalt
originals I switched to Amazon or eBay NiMH knockoff packs and
had great luck.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Recently we've been adding onto the house and
remodeling, and after watching various subcontractors I just
had to have a 1/4" impact driver and a hammer drill. Old
loyalty to DeWalt was strong, but I eventually spent a touch
more for Milwaukee Fuel. Before Christmas I got a combination
kit with the best hammer drill and best impact driver, three
5AH Red Lithium batteries, and a charger. $450.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">I felt bad about spending the money, but after
installing a floor in the attic, rebuilding a wall downstairs,
running loads of screws, and then taking the impact out to
work on the cars and snowblowers a few times, I wish I'd
bought this years ago.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Battery life is incredible. Hours of work and
I've only recharged batteries once, when I got down to 2 bars,
and I still haven't even opened the third battery.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Power is incredible. The impact won't take off
lug nuts, but then I haven't actually tried. I'm sure (once I
buy one) the 1/2" will beat the pants off my disappointing HF
Earthquake 1/2" impact.</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Close to a religious experience. Highly
recommended. </div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
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<p style="color: black; font-size: 10pt; font-family:
sans-serif; margin: 8pt 0;">On January 11, 2021 10:45:30
AM Bob Spidell <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";><bspidell@comcast.net></a> wrote:</p>
<blockquote type="cite" class="gmail_quote" style="margin:
0 0 0 0.75ex; border-left: 1px solid #808080;
padding-left: 0.75ex;"> Others have said it, but I'll
reiterate: Pick a battery/voltage, then acquire the
tools that go with it. If you get a cordless drill,
eventually you'll want a cordless impact 'wrench'--for
lug nuts if nothing else--a 'sawzall' (equivalent), a
circular saw, etc. Buy a combo kit, with a battery and
charger included, to start.<br>
<br>
I went with DeWalt 20V 'XR' brushless, because of mostly
positive reviews and, whether it's merit or good product
placement by the marketeers (probably both), they seem
to be the most popular among the mechanics, farmers,
etc. on the quasi-reality TV shows (Stihl gets the nod
for gas chainsaws, with Husqvarna second). I bought a
cordless DeWalt hedger, slightly discounted because it
was a display model, thinking "Sure, it'll do a couple
bushes then quit," but we did my mom's whole (large)
backyard on a single 4Ah battery. The tool that drains
the battery fastest is my 4&1/2" angle
grinder/sander/wirebrusher, probably because it runs
more continuously and has an 'open circuit' load; I get
about 20mins on a 4Ah battery.<br>
<br>
I have a full complement of pneumatic and corded
electric tools--many are Harbor Freight, for occasional
use--that are mostly collecting dust these days; it's
just not worth unraveling an extension cord or firing up
the compressor for a quick, one-off job . One of my
faves is an old Makita 9V driver/drill, which can't hold
a candle for power to the DeWalt--and replacement
Chinese batteries are hit-or-miss--but it keeps
soldiering-on. Makita stuff is top-notch, but I haven't
seen the variety of tools--doesn't mean they don't have
them--that DeWalt, Milwaukee, etc. have on display.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/11/2021 5:38 AM, Tim .
wrote:<br>
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I didn't say I was going to spend 320. I said "if
necessary". </div>
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<br>
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<div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
I already have a mitre saw. In fact, I have a full
shop including 80-gallon compressor, blast cabinet,
parts washer, panel beating tools, and a boat load
of hand tools. </div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<br>
</div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
I simply want the best cordless drill/screw driver
out there. My experience with ryobi is that they
don't hold up to even how much I use them. </div>
<div style="font-family: Calibri, Helvetica,
sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
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tim</div>
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style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color:
#000000;"><b>From:</b> John T. Blair <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:jblair1948@cox.net";
moz-do-not-send="true"><jblair1948@cox.net></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tim . <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com";
moz-do-not-send="true"><tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Cordless
drill/screw driver</span>
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<div><span style="font-size: 12pt;">At 10:58 AM
1/10/2021, Tim wrote:<br>
<br>
>I have a $100 menards rebate check and a $60
rebate visa card that are both <br>
>burning a hole in my pocket. Also, I have
the 15% "anything you can fit in the <br>
>bag" sale bag. I figure $160 is a good
starting point and am willing to at least <br>
>match that 160 or more if necessary to get
the best out there right now. <br>
<br>
......<br>
<br>
>I am not worried about a little heavier than
most as I am not contractor and this <br>
>won't get used every day. I am just getting
tired of dragging cords. I'd like <br>
>whatever I get to be the start of going all
cordless (skill saw, Sawzall, etc).<br>
<br>
Tim,<br>
<br>
If you are not going to be using it every day,
why do you want to spend a ton of<br>
money on a cordless drill. You say you have
$160 burning a hole in your pocket<br>
and are willing to put another $160 to that.
Man that $320!!!! You can get a <br>
Roybi or such for say $100. Usually around Xmas
which you just missed, you can<br>
get a Roybi kit with a drill, saw, and another
tool for less than $150. That's where<br>
I'd put the first $160. Then I'd look at
something else like a sliding compound <br>
miter saw, or a nail gun or two, or some other
tools.<br>
<br>
Now that being said, let me say I buy a lot of
Harbor Freight tools. And for the<br>
occassional use they work well. I have a $25
ish oscillating saw, which I've used <br>
for something over 5 yrs. It just died in the
middle of a remodel in a bedroom.<br>
So I bought another. Especially if you don't
know what you're going to use it for.<br>
I also have a cheap $20 H.F. recriprocating saw
that has paid for it's self. If I'd<br>
have bought a $100 to $300 version of either of
these tools, I'd never had really<br>
gotten my money worth out of the tool. I'm 72
and it's getting harder and harder<br>
every day for me to do a lot of the things I
used to do, like bend over. :) So why<br>
should I pay for a tool that would last me for
the next 30 years or so, if I'm only<br>
going to be around for another 10 years?<br>
<br>
Spend a little less money on a tool, and get
more of them. Especially if it not your<br>
bread and butter.<br>
<br>
John<br>
<br>
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