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About 2000 I decided to take the plunge into a decent cordless
drill/driver. I opted for a 14.4 volt DeWalt over their much heavier 18
volt. Built my hangar, did loads of remodeling, on and on. Battery life
was ok till the NiCad haunts set in, and after one replacement set of
DeWalt originals I switched to Amazon or eBay NiMH knockoff packs and had
great luck.
Recently we've been adding onto the house and remodeling, and after
watching various subcontractors I just had to have a 1/4" impact driver and
a hammer drill. Old loyalty to DeWalt was strong, but I eventually spent a
touch more for Milwaukee Fuel. Before Christmas I got a combination kit
with the best hammer drill and best impact driver, three 5AH Red Lithium
batteries, and a charger. $450.
I felt bad about spending the money, but after installing a floor in the
attic, rebuilding a wall downstairs, running loads of screws, and then
taking the impact out to work on the cars and snowblowers a few times, I
wish I'd bought this years ago.
Battery life is incredible. Hours of work and I've only recharged
batteries once, when I got down to 2 bars, and I still haven't even opened
the third battery.
Power is incredible. The impact won't take off lug nuts, but then I
haven't actually tried. I'm sure (once I buy one) the 1/2" will beat the
pants off my disappointing HF Earthquake 1/2" impact.
Close to a religious experience. Highly recommended.
On January 11, 2021 10:45:30 AM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
> Others have said it, but I'll reiterate: Pick a battery/voltage, then
> acquire the tools that go with it. If you get a cordless drill, eventually
> you'll want a cordless impact 'wrench'--for lug nuts if nothing else--a
> 'sawzall' (equivalent), a circular saw, etc. Buy a combo kit, with a
> battery and charger included, to start.
>
> I went with DeWalt 20V 'XR' brushless, because of mostly positive reviews
> and, whether it's merit or good product placement by the marketeers
> (probably both), they seem to be the most popular among the mechanics,
> farmers, etc. on the quasi-reality TV shows (Stihl gets the nod for gas
> chainsaws, with Husqvarna second). I bought a cordless DeWalt hedger,
> slightly discounted because it was a display model, thinking "Sure, it'll
> do a couple bushes then quit," but we did my mom's whole (large) backyard
> on a single 4Ah battery. The tool that drains the battery fastest is my
> 4&1/2" angle grinder/sander/wirebrusher, probably because it runs more
> continuously and has an 'open circuit' load; I get about 20mins on a 4Ah
> battery.
>
> I have a full complement of pneumatic and corded electric tools--many are
> Harbor Freight, for occasional use--that are mostly collecting dust these
> days; it's just not worth unraveling an extension cord or firing up the
> compressor for a quick, one-off job . One of my faves is an old Makita 9V
> driver/drill, which can't hold a candle for power to the DeWalt--and
> replacement Chinese batteries are hit-or-miss--but it keeps soldiering-on.
> Makita stuff is top-notch, but I haven't seen the variety of tools--doesn't
> mean they don't have them--that DeWalt, Milwaukee, etc. have on display.
>
> Bob
>
>
> On 1/11/2021 5:38 AM, Tim . wrote:
>> I didn't say I was going to spend 320. I said "if necessary".
>>
>> I already have a mitre saw. In fact, I have a full shop including 80-gallon
>> compressor, blast cabinet, parts washer, panel beating tools, and a boat
>> load of hand tools.
>>
>> I simply want the best cordless drill/screw driver out there. My experience
>> with ryobi is that they don't hold up to even how much I use them.
>>
>> tim
>>
>> From: John T. Blair <jblair1948@cox.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:09 PM
>> To: Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Cordless drill/screw driver
>> At 10:58 AM 1/10/2021, Tim wrote:
>>
>>> I have a $100 menards rebate check and a $60 rebate visa card that are both
>>> burning a hole in my pocket. Also, I have the 15% "anything you can fit in
>>> the
>>> bag" sale bag. I figure $160 is a good starting point and am willing to at
>>> least
>>> match that 160 or more if necessary to get the best out there right now.
>>
>> ......
>>
>>> I am not worried about a little heavier than most as I am not contractor
>>> and this
>>> won't get used every day. I am just getting tired of dragging cords. I'd
>>> like
>>> whatever I get to be the start of going all cordless (skill saw, Sawzall,
>>> etc).
>>
>> Tim,
>>
>> If you are not going to be using it every day, why do you want to spend a
>> ton of
>> money on a cordless drill. You say you have $160 burning a hole in your
>> pocket
>> and are willing to put another $160 to that. Man that $320!!!! You can get
>> a
>> Roybi or such for say $100. Usually around Xmas which you just missed, you
>> can
>> get a Roybi kit with a drill, saw, and another tool for less than $150.
>> That's where
>> I'd put the first $160. Then I'd look at something else like a sliding
>> compound
>> miter saw, or a nail gun or two, or some other tools.
>>
>> Now that being said, let me say I buy a lot of Harbor Freight tools. And
>> for the
>> occassional use they work well. I have a $25 ish oscillating saw, which
>> I've used
>> for something over 5 yrs. It just died in the middle of a remodel in a
>> bedroom.
>> So I bought another. Especially if you don't know what you're going to use
>> it for.
>> I also have a cheap $20 H.F. recriprocating saw that has paid for it's
>> self. If I'd
>> have bought a $100 to $300 version of either of these tools, I'd never had
>> really
>> gotten my money worth out of the tool. I'm 72 and it's getting harder and
>> harder
>> every day for me to do a lot of the things I used to do, like bend over. :)
>> So why
>> should I pay for a tool that would last me for the next 30 years or so, if
>> I'm only
>> going to be around for another 10 years?
>>
>> Spend a little less money on a tool, and get more of them. Especially if
>> it not your
>> bread and butter.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> 2
>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">About 2000 I decided to take the plunge into a decent cor=
dless drill/driver. I opted for a 14.4 volt DeWalt over their much he=
avier 18 volt. Built my hangar, did loads of remodeling, on and on.&n=
bsp; Battery life was ok till the NiCad haunts set in, and after one replac=
ement set of DeWalt originals I switched to Amazon or eBay NiMH knockoff pa=
cks and had great luck.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">=
Recently we've been adding onto the house and remodeling, and after watchin=
g various subcontractors I just had to have a 1/4" impact driver and a hamm=
er drill. Old loyalty to DeWalt was strong, but I eventually spent a =
touch more for Milwaukee Fuel. Before Christmas I got a combination k=
it with the best hammer drill and best impact driver, three 5AH Red Lithium=
batteries, and a charger. $450.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"auto">I felt bad about spending the money, but after installing a =
floor in the attic, rebuilding a wall downstairs, running loads of screws, =
and then taking the impact out to work on the cars and snowblowers a few ti=
mes, I wish I'd bought this years ago.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"auto">Battery life is incredible. Hours of work and I've onl=
y recharged batteries once, when I got down to 2 bars, and I still haven't =
even opened the third battery.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"auto">Power is incredible. The impact won't take off lug nuts, but t=
hen I haven't actually tried. I'm sure (once I buy one) the 1/2" will=
beat the pants off my disappointing HF Earthquake 1/2" impact.</div><div d=
ir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Close to a religious experience. Hi=
ghly recommended. </div><div dir=3D'auto'><br></div>
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<p style=3D"color: black; font-size: 10pt; font-family: sans-serif; margin:=
8pt 0;">On January 11, 2021 10:45:30 AM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.n=
et> wrote:</p>
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ex; border-left: 1px solid #808080; padding-left: 0.75ex;">
Others have said it, but I'll reiterate: Pick a battery/voltage,
then acquire the tools that go with it. If you get a cordless drill,
eventually you'll want a cordless impact 'wrench'--for lug nuts if
nothing else--a 'sawzall' (equivalent), a circular saw, etc. Buy =
a
combo kit, with a battery and charger included, to start.<br>
<br>
I went with DeWalt 20V 'XR' brushless, because of mostly positive
reviews and, whether it's merit or good product placement by the
marketeers (probably both), they seem to be the most popular among
the mechanics, farmers, etc. on the quasi-reality TV shows (Stihl
gets the nod for gas chainsaws, with Husqvarna second). I bought a
cordless DeWalt hedger, slightly discounted because it was a display
model, thinking "Sure, it'll do a couple bushes then quit," but we
did my mom's whole (large) backyard on a single 4Ah battery. The
tool that drains the battery fastest is my 4&1/2" angle
grinder/sander/wirebrusher, probably because it runs more
continuously and has an 'open circuit' load; I get about 20mins on a
4Ah battery.<br>
<br>
I have a full complement of pneumatic and corded electric
tools--many are Harbor Freight, for occasional use--that are mostly
collecting dust these days; it's just not worth unraveling an
extension cord or firing up the compressor for a quick, one-off job
. One of my faves is an old Makita 9V driver/drill, which can't hold
a candle for power to the DeWalt--and replacement Chinese batteries
are hit-or-miss--but it keeps soldiering-on. Makita stuff is
top-notch, but I haven't seen the variety of tools--doesn't mean
they don't have them--that DeWalt, Milwaukee, etc. have on display.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 1/11/2021 5:38 AM, Tim . wrote:<br>
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I didn't say I was going to spend 320. I said "if necessary". =
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font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
I already have a mitre saw. In fact, I have a full shop
including 80-gallon compressor, blast cabinet, parts washer,
panel beating tools, and a boat load of hand tools. </div>
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font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
I simply want the best cordless drill/screw driver out there. My
experience with ryobi is that they don't hold up to even how
much I use them. </div>
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font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
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tim</div>
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<div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><span style=3D"font-family: C=
alibri, sans-serif; color: #000000;"><b>From:</b> John
T. Blair <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:jbla=
ir1948@cox.net"><jblair1948@cox.net></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tim . <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mai=
lto:tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com"><tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com></a=
><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Cordless drill/screw driver</sp=
an>
<div> </div>
</div>
<div><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">At 10:58 AM 1/10/2021, Tim wr=
ote:<br>
<br>
>I have a $100 menards rebate check and a $60 rebate visa
card that are both <br>
>burning a hole in my pocket. Also, I have the 15%
"anything you can fit in the <br>
>bag" sale bag. I figure $160 is a good starting point
and am willing to at least
<br>
>match that 160 or more if necessary to get the best out
there right now. <br>
<br>
......<br>
<br>
>I am not worried about a little heavier than most as I
am not contractor and this
<br>
>won't get used every day. I am just getting tired of
dragging cords. I'd like <br>
>whatever I get to be the start of going all cordless
(skill saw, Sawzall, etc).<br>
<br>
Tim,<br>
<br>
If you are not going to be using it every day, why do you
want to spend a ton of<br>
money on a cordless drill. You say you have $160 burning =
a
hole in your pocket<br>
and are willing to put another $160 to that. Man that
$320!!!! You can get a <br>
Roybi or such for say $100. Usually around Xmas which you
just missed, you can<br>
get a Roybi kit with a drill, saw, and another tool for less
than $150. That's where<br>
I'd put the first $160. Then I'd look at something else
like a sliding compound <br>
miter saw, or a nail gun or two, or some other tools.<br>
<br>
Now that being said, let me say I buy a lot of Harbor
Freight tools. And for the<br>
occassional use they work well. I have a $25 ish
oscillating saw, which I've used
<br>
for something over 5 yrs. It just died in the middle of a
remodel in a bedroom.<br>
So I bought another. Especially if you don't know what
you're going to use it for.<br>
I also have a cheap $20 H.F. recriprocating saw that has
paid for it's self. If I'd<br>
have bought a $100 to $300 version of either of these tools,
I'd never had really<br>
gotten my money worth out of the tool. I'm 72 and it's
getting harder and harder<br>
every day for me to do a lot of the things I used to do,
like bend over. :) So why<br>
should I pay for a tool that would last me for the next 30
years or so, if I'm only<br>
going to be around for another 10 years?<br>
<br>
Spend a little less money on a tool, and get more of them. =
;
Especially if it not your<br>
bread and butter.<br>
<br>
John<br>
<br>
<br>
2<br>
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