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From: "Tim ." <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2021 13:38:17 +0000
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I didn't say I was going to spend 320. I said "if necessary".

I already have a mitre saw. In fact, I have a full shop including 80-gallon=
 compressor, blast cabinet, parts washer, panel beating tools, and a boat l=
oad of hand tools.

I simply want the best cordless drill/screw driver out there. My experience=
 with ryobi is that they don't hold up to even how much I use them.

tim

________________________________
From: John T. Blair <jblair1948@cox.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:09 PM
To: Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Cordless drill/screw driver

At 10:58 AM 1/10/2021, Tim wrote:

>I have a $100 menards rebate check and a $60 rebate visa card that are bot=
h
>burning a hole in my pocket. Also, I have the 15% "anything you can fit in=
 the
>bag" sale bag. I figure $160 is a good starting point and am willing to at=
 least
>match that 160 or more if necessary to get the best out there right now.

......

>I am not worried about a little heavier than most as I am not contractor a=
nd this
>won't get used every day. I am just getting tired of dragging cords. I'd l=
ike
>whatever I get to be the start of going all cordless (skill saw, Sawzall, =
etc).

Tim,

If you are not going to be using it every day, why do you want to spend a t=
on of
money on a cordless drill.  You say you have $160 burning a hole in your po=
cket
and are willing to put another $160 to that.  Man that $320!!!!  You can ge=
t a
Roybi or such for say $100.  Usually around Xmas which you just missed, you=
 can
get a Roybi kit with a drill, saw, and another tool for less than $150.  Th=
at's where
I'd put the first $160.  Then I'd look at something else like a sliding com=
pound
miter saw, or a nail gun or two, or some other tools.

Now that being said, let me say I buy a lot of Harbor Freight tools.  And f=
or the
occassional use they work well.  I have a $25 ish oscillating saw, which I'=
ve used
for something over 5 yrs.  It just died in the middle of a remodel in a bed=
room.
So I bought another.  Especially if you don't know what you're going to use=
 it for.
I also have a cheap $20 H.F. recriprocating saw that has paid for it's self=
.  If I'd
have bought a $100 to $300 version of either of these tools, I'd never had =
really
gotten my money worth out of the tool.  I'm 72 and it's getting harder and =
harder
every day for me to do a lot of the things I used to do, like bend over. :)=
  So why
should I pay for a tool that would last me for the next 30 years or so, if =
I'm only
going to be around for another 10 years?

Spend a little less money on a tool, and get more of them.  Especially if i=
t not your
bread and butter.

John


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Thanks all
tim
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I already have a mitre saw. In fact, I have a full shop including 80-gallon=
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I simply want the best cordless drill/screw driver out there. My experience=
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air1948@cox.net&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 10, 2021 10:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tim . &lt;tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Shop-talk] Cordless drill/screw driver</font>
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<div><font size=3D"3">At 10:58 AM 1/10/2021, Tim wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt;I have a $100 menards rebate check and a $60 rebate visa card that are =
both <br>
&gt;burning a hole in my pocket. Also, I have the 15% &quot;anything you ca=
n fit in the <br>
&gt;bag&quot; sale bag. I figure $160 is a good starting point and am willi=
ng to at least
<br>
&gt;match that 160 or more if necessary to get the best out there right now=
. <br>
<br>
......<br>
<br>
&gt;I am not worried about a little heavier than most as I am not contracto=
r and this
<br>
&gt;won't get used every day. I am just getting tired of dragging cords. I'=
d like <br>
&gt;whatever I get to be the start of going all cordless (skill saw, Sawzal=
l, etc).<br>
<br>
Tim,<br>
<br>
If you are not going to be using it every day, why do you want to spend a t=
on of<br>
money on a cordless drill.&nbsp; You say you have $160 burning a hole in yo=
ur pocket<br>
and are willing to put another $160 to that.&nbsp; Man that $320!!!!&nbsp; =
You can get a <br>
Roybi or such for say $100.&nbsp; Usually around Xmas which you just missed=
, you can<br>
get a Roybi kit with a drill, saw, and another tool for less than $150.&nbs=
p; That's where<br>
I'd put the first $160.&nbsp; Then I'd look at something else like a slidin=
g compound <br>
miter saw, or a nail gun or two, or some other tools.<br>
<br>
Now that being said, let me say I buy a lot of Harbor Freight tools.&nbsp; =
And for the<br>
occassional use they work well.&nbsp; I have a $25 ish oscillating saw, whi=
ch I've used
<br>
for something over 5 yrs.&nbsp; It just died in the middle of a remodel in =
a bedroom.<br>
So I bought another.&nbsp; Especially if you don't know what you're going t=
o use it for.<br>
I also have a cheap $20 H.F. recriprocating saw that has paid for it's self=
.&nbsp; If I'd<br>
have bought a $100 to $300 version of either of these tools, I'd never had =
really<br>
gotten my money worth out of the tool.&nbsp; I'm 72 and it's getting harder=
 and harder<br>
every day for me to do a lot of the things I used to do, like bend over. :)=
&nbsp; So why<br>
should I pay for a tool that would last me for the next 30 years or so, if =
I'm only<br>
going to be around for another 10 years?<br>
<br>
Spend a little less money on a tool, and get more of them.&nbsp; Especially=
 if it not your<br>
bread and butter.<br>
<br>
John<br>
<br>
<br>
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<div>John T. Blair&nbsp; WA4OHZ&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; email:&nbsp; jblair=
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<div>Va. Beach, Va&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Phone:&nbsp; (757) 495-8229</=
div>
<br>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 48 TR1800&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp; 48 #4 Midget&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 65 Morgan 4/4 Series V (B1106)<=
/div>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 77 =
Spitfire&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 71 Saab Sonett III</div>
<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 65 Rambler C=
lassic</div>
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<div>Morgan:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=3D"http://www.team.net/morgan";>www.t=
eam.net/morgan</a></div>
<div>Bricklin:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=3D"http://www.bricklin.org/"=
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