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Yes, that is what NAPA says:
http://knowhow.napaonline.com/understanding-oil-drain-plug/#:~:text=3DThe%2=
0plug%20isn't%20always,a%20speed%20bump%20or%20pothole
.
*The plug isn=E2=80=99t always located on the bottom side of the pan. In fa=
ct,
you=E2=80=99ll most often find it attached to the side, where it=E2=80=99s =
better protected
from damage that could arise from scraping against a speed bump or
pothole. *
I could conjecture also that having them on the side perhaps makes them
more readily visible if you are sliding under the car on a creeper, easier
to get a socket on, less likely to strip, etc.
best,
doug
On Mon, Jan 4, 2021 at 6:23 AM Brian Kemp <bk13@earthlink.net> wrote:
> I think they are horizontal for extra protection against ground impact.
> If they stuck out the bottom and you went off road or drove over a concre=
te
> stop in a parking lot, an oil drain plug could take a direct impact and
> perhaps have greater damage than hitting a frame rail or suspension bit.
>
> I share your frustration with the oil filter location from my Honda
> Odyssey. Changing the filter caused oil to come down directly on the fra=
me
> rail. My solution was to take a foot square of alluminum foil and make m=
y
> own deflection device to catch all the oil and direct it to the drain pan=
.
>
> Brian
>
> On 1/4/2021 5:14 AM, eric@megageek.com wrote:
>
> OK, this is half vent and half "can someone explain why the heck do they
> do this to us?"
>
> I notice that just about EVERY modern's car drain plug drains horizontall=
y
> and not vertically (where the plug come straight down from the bottom of
> the oil pan.) This make's oil changes SO much harder and messier.
>
> Then, I've even seen (2018 Ford F150) where it has a frame rail right in
> front of the oil hole and it splashes the nearly 2 GALLONS of oil
> everywhere. Then, the oil filter has a 'slide' under it to redirect the
> oil to the front of the frame, which is nice, EXCEPT that it doesn't go a=
ll
> the way back to under the oil filter! This means that some oil drips und=
er
> the oil filter while more drips in front of the frame rail about 2 feet
> away (meaning no single oil pan can catch both.) I'm seeing this in more
> and more cars that have stupid oil drains.
>
> Now I get that engines are sometime designed in a vacuum and the frame
> builders don't care what is in the way, but it just seems that for optima=
l
> oil changes, a plug should be at the bottom of the pan. With all the
> environmental concerns, I would also imagine that any way to prevent oil
> spills and splashes would be ideal.
>
> Can anyone explain this? Or is it just a case of designers really HATE
> mechanics?
>
>
> "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational
> being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph
> Waldo Emerson
> -Who is John Galt?
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Yes, that is what NAPA says:<div><br></div><div><a href=3D=
"http://knowhow.napaonline.com/understanding-oil-drain-plug/#:~:text=3DThe%=
20plug%20isn't%20always,a%20speed%20bump%20or%20pothole">http://knowhow=
.napaonline.com/understanding-oil-drain-plug/#:~:text=3DThe%20plug%20isn=
9;t%20always,a%20speed%20bump%20or%20pothole</a>.<br></div><blockquote styl=
e=3D"margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div><i><span style=3D"colo=
r:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;font-variant-ligatures:no-discre=
tionary-ligatures">The plug isn=E2=80=99t always located on the bottom side=
of the pan. In fact, you=E2=80=99ll most often find it attached to the sid=
e, where it=E2=80=99s better protected from damage that could arise from sc=
raping against a speed bump or pothole.</span>=C2=A0=C2=A0</i></div></block=
quote><br><div>I could conjecture also that having them on the side perhaps=
makes them more readily visible if you are sliding under the car on a cree=
per, easier to get a socket on, less likely to strip, etc.=C2=A0</div><div>=
<br></div><div>best,</div><div><br></div><div>doug</div></div><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 4, 2021=
at 6:23 AM Brian Kemp <<a href=3D"mailto:bk13@earthlink.net";>bk13@earth=
link.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-le=
ft:1ex">
=20
=20
=20
<div>
I think they are horizontal for extra protection against ground
impact.=C2=A0 If they stuck out the bottom and you went off road or dro=
ve
over a concrete stop in a parking lot, an oil drain plug could take
a direct impact and perhaps have greater damage than hitting a frame
rail or suspension bit.<br>
<br>
I share your frustration with the oil filter location from my Honda
Odyssey.=C2=A0 Changing the filter caused oil to come down directly on
the frame rail.=C2=A0 My solution was to take a foot square of alluminu=
m
foil and make my own deflection device to catch all the oil and
direct it to the drain pan.<br>
<br>
Brian<br>
<br>
<div>On 1/4/2021 5:14 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:eric@megageek.com"; target=
=3D"_blank">eric@megageek.com</a>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
=20
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">OK, this is half vent and half
"can
someone explain why the heck do they do this to us?"</font>
<br>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">I notice that just about EVERY
modern's
car drain plug drains horizontally and not vertically (where the
plug come
straight down from the bottom of the oil pan.) =C2=A0This make'=
s oil
changes
SO much harder and messier.</font>
<br>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Then, I've even seen (2018 F=
ord
F150)
where it has a frame rail right in front of the oil hole and it
splashes
the nearly 2 GALLONS of oil everywhere.=C2=A0 Then, the oil filter
has
a 'slide' under it to redirect the oil to the front of the
frame, which
is nice, EXCEPT that it doesn't go all the way back to under th=
e
oil filter!
=C2=A0This means that some oil drips under the oil filter while mor=
e
drips
in front of the frame rail about 2 feet away (meaning no single
oil pan
can catch both.) =C2=A0I'm seeing this in more and more cars th=
at
have
stupid oil drains.</font>
<br>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Now I get that engines are
sometime
designed in a vacuum and the frame builders don't care what is
in the way,
but it just seems that for optimal oil changes, a plug should be
at the
bottom of the pan.=C2=A0 With all the environmental concerns, I wou=
ld
also
imagine that any way to prevent oil spills and splashes would be
ideal.</font>
<br>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Can anyone explain this?=C2=A0 O=
r is
it just a case of designers really HATE mechanics?</font>
<br>
<font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
<br>
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as=
a
rational
being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory.&quo=
t;
Ralph
Waldo Emerson <br>
-Who is John Galt?</font>
<br>
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