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Re: [Shop-talk] De-coupling overhead door torsion spring

To: old dirtbeard <dirtbeard@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] De-coupling overhead door torsion spring
From: Bill Rabel via Shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 08:02:38 -0700
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I can=E2=80=99t stop adding my 2 cents. When the tension is right, you shoul=
d be able to unlatch the door from the drive chain and lift the door easily b=
y hand. This is important during a power outage.=20

- Bill Rabel
  Anacortes WA

=E2=80=9CPolitics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it e=
xists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedy.=E2=80=
=9D - Sir Ernest Benn


> On Oct 16, 2019, at 5:59 AM, old dirtbeard via Shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.=
team.net> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> HI Scott,
>=20
> I am a non-garage door expert, and was able to retention my garage door sp=
rings with no problem. I bought a three foot length of steel rod from Home D=
epot, cut it in half, taped up what would be the "handle" portion to reduce t=
he chance of slippage, used an adjustable wrench on the square head retainin=
g bolts and was able to do it myself with no problems. I have two sets of ga=
rage doors, and later adjusted the tension of the second door as it was clos=
ing too fast/hard.
>=20
> Having the bars at the ready allows one to make minor adjustments to the d=
oors over time as the spring lose tension. I just keep them on the header be=
am above the doors so they are there when I need them next time.
>=20
> There is a good deal of tension on the springs, but if a normal man uses a=
 degree of care, is standing on a decent ladder, and use both bars increment=
ally, sequentially, it is a very quick job to do. I am glad that I did it my=
self and now can "fine tune" the adjustment on the doors whenever necessary.=

>=20
> best,
>=20
> doug
>=20
>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 8:30 PM Brian Kemp via Shop-talk <shop-talk@autox=
.team.net> wrote:
>> Scott - I'd call a local garage door place for an estimate on the=20
>> springs.  You might find it is very reasonable.  It is tough and you=20
>> need the correct diameter steel rods that will fit the holes nicely.  Do=20=

>> not stand where the rod can hit you.  Since you are switching to an=20
>> insulated door, it might be heavier, so you will have to tension the=20
>> door differently.
>>=20
>> Installing a door is best as a two person job.  Maybe the installer has=20=

>> a guy that can stop by after hours and help you out for a reasonable amou=
nt.
>>=20
>> Brian
>>=20
>> On 10/14/2019 8:39 PM, Scott Hall via Shop-talk wrote:
>> > Got a new insulated garage door for winter here. Need to remove the=20
>> > old door.
>> >
>> >
>> > Torsion springs seem to be one of those things that drive emergency=20
>> > room visits in real life, not just internet clickbait.
>> >
>> >
>> > Before I just do what Google says, I think I'd like to hear from the=20=

>> > real people on a subject like that. Can I somehow un-do the cable ends=20=

>> > from the door, or the cables from the springs and then remove the door=20=

>> > panels, or do I need to de-tension the torsion spring first?
>> >
>> >
>> > And if I need to de-tension it, what's the best method to avoid=20
>> > smashed skulls or broken limbs?
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance.
>> >
>> >
>> > Scott
>> >
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I can=E2=80=99t stop adding my 2 cents. Whe=
n the tension is right, you should be able to unlatch the door from the driv=
e chain and lift the door easily by hand. This is important during a power o=
utage.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>- Bill Rabel</div><div>&nbsp; Anacortes WA<b=
r><br><div dir=3D"ltr">






<p class=3D"p1"><span class=3D"s1">=E2=80=9CPolitics is the art of looking f=
or trouble, finding it </span><span class=3D"s2">whether it exists or not</s=
pan><span class=3D"s1">, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong </=
span><span class=3D"s2">remedy.=E2=80=9D&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-siz=
e: 13pt; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">- Sir Ernest Benn</span>=
</p></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Oct 16, 2019, at=
 5:59 AM, old dirtbeard via Shop-talk &lt;shop-talk@autox.team.net&gt; wrote=
:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=
=BF<div dir=3D"ltr">HI Scott,<div><br></div><div>I am a non-garage door expe=
rt, and was able to retention&nbsp;my garage door springs with no problem. I=
 bought a three foot length&nbsp;of steel rod from Home Depot, cut it in hal=
f, taped up what would be the "handle" portion to reduce the chance of slipp=
age, used an adjustable wrench on the square head retaining bolts and was ab=
le to do it myself&nbsp;with no problems. I have two sets of garage doors, a=
nd later adjusted&nbsp;the tension of the second door as it was closing too f=
ast/hard.</div><div><br></div><div>Having the bars at the ready allows one t=
o make minor adjustments to the doors over time as the spring lose tension. I=
 just keep them on the header beam above the doors so they are there when I n=
eed them next&nbsp;time.</div><div><br></div><div>There is a good deal of te=
nsion on the springs, but if a normal man uses a degree of care, is standing=
 on a decent ladder, and use both bars incrementally, sequentially, it is a v=
ery quick job to do. I am glad that I did it myself and now can "fine tune" t=
he adjustment on the doors whenever necessary.</div><div><br></div><div>best=
,</div><div><br></div><div>doug</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 8:30 PM Brian Ke=
mp via Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net";>shop-talk@a=
utox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex">Scott - I'd call a local garage door place for an estimate on the=
 <br>
springs.&nbsp; You might find it is very reasonable.&nbsp; It is tough and y=
ou <br>
need the correct diameter steel rods that will fit the holes nicely.&nbsp; D=
o <br>
not stand where the rod can hit you.&nbsp; Since you are switching to an <br=
>
insulated door, it might be heavier, so you will have to tension the <br>
door differently.<br>
<br>
Installing a door is best as a two person job.&nbsp; Maybe the installer has=
 <br>
a guy that can stop by after hours and help you out for a reasonable amount.=
<br>
<br>
Brian<br>
<br>
On 10/14/2019 8:39 PM, Scott Hall via Shop-talk wrote:<br>
&gt; Got a new insulated garage door for winter here. Need to remove the <br=
>
&gt; old door.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Torsion springs seem to be one of those things that drive emergency <br=
>
&gt; room visits in real life, not just internet clickbait.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Before I just do what Google says, I think I'd like to hear from the <b=
r>
&gt; real people on a subject like that. Can I somehow un-do the cable ends <=
br>
&gt; from the door, or the cables from the springs and then remove the door <=
br>
&gt; panels, or do I need to de-tension the torsion spring first?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; And if I need to de-tension it, what's the best method to avoid <br>
&gt; smashed skulls or broken limbs?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks in advance.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Scott<br>
&gt;<br>
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