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To: Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal@gmail.com> definitions=2019-10-15_06:, , signatures=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1906280000 definitions=main-1910150159
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] De-coupling overhead door torsion spring
From: Pat Horne via Shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 13:41:02 -0500
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Scott, that changes things a bit.=20

Check out 4 or 5 videos on line to see how to do it. Don=E2=80=99t rely on a=
ny that are even slightly different from your door & go by videos where ther=
e are multiple videos that show the exact same thing.=20

My door used 5/8=E2=80=9D bars but the key is to use bars that ate correct f=
or your door.=20

Where are you located?

Peace,
Pat

Pat Horne=20
We support Habitat for Humanity


> On Oct 15, 2019, at 11:40 AM, Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal@gmail.com> w=
rote:
>=20

=EF=BB=BF
Huh.  I probably should mention that I too would prefer to pay someone for t=
his. =20

Apparently where I live is too rural and no one is willing to come out here a=
nd I'm tired of begging to pay someone to do it.  It's also been two weeks a=
nd I'm going to go ahead and get this done.=20

With that being said, any help?

> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019, 11:35 AM Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com> wrote:
> Up until now this has all been a mental process, no physical damage can be=
 done by it.=20
>=20
> Not to be a wet blanket, but we can not help you be safe by explaining whi=
ch bolts to loosen, that could be a real safety problem for you.=20
>=20
> You need to find the installation manual for the door at a minimum. Or bet=
ter yet, find someone who has done this work before to do it for you or show=
 you how.  Personally, I=E2=80=99d rather you be out a few $$ to have someon=
e do it rather than many $$ for medical bills.=20
>=20
> Peace,
> Pat
>=20
> Pat Horne=20
> We support Habitat for Humanity
>=20
>=20
>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:53 AM, Scott Hall via Shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.t=
eam.net> wrote:
>>=20
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Which bolts am I loosening, Bill? The ones that appear to hold to the shaf=
t the fixture I'm going to be inserting the riffs into?
>=20
> Thanks.
>=20
>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019, 9:58 AM Bill Rabel <brabel@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Scott -
>>=20
>> De-tension the springs first. You will need two steel rods, 12=E2=80=9D -=
 18=E2=80=9D long. 3/8=E2=80=9D socket extensions work well.=20
>>=20
>> Put one rod into the hole in the collar with the securing bolts in it. Ho=
ld on to the rod when you loosen the bolts, and use the two rods to relieve t=
he spring tension, 1/4 turn at a time.=20
>>=20
>> - Bill Rabel
>>   Anacortes, WA
>>=20
>>=20
>> =E2=80=9CPolitics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether i=
t exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedy.=E2=
=80=9D - Sir Ernest Benn
>>=20
>>=20
>>>> On Oct 14, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Scott Hall via Shop-talk <shop-talk@autox.=
team.net> wrote:
>>>>=20
>>> =EF=BB=BFGot a new insulated garage door for winter here. Need to remove=
 the old door.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Torsion springs seem to be one of those things that drive emergency room=
 visits in real life, not just internet clickbait.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Before I just do what Google says, I think I'd like to hear from the rea=
l people on a subject like that. Can I somehow un-do the cable ends from the=
 door, or the cables from the springs and then remove the door panels, or do=
 I need to de-tension the torsion spring first?
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> And if I need to de-tension it, what's the best method to avoid smashed s=
kulls or broken limbs?
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Scott
>>>=20
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>>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Scott, that changes things a bit.&nbsp;<div=
><br></div><div>Check out 4 or 5 videos on line to see how to do it. Don=E2=80=
=99t rely on any that are even slightly different from your door &amp; go by=
 videos where there are multiple videos that show the exact same thing.&nbsp=
;</div><div><br></div><div>My door used 5/8=E2=80=9D bars but the key is to u=
se bars that ate correct for your door.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Where=
 are you located?</div><div><br></div><div>Peace,</div><div>Pat<br><br><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div><div><br=
></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Oct 15, 2019,=
 at 11:40 AM, Scott Hall &lt;scott.hall.personal@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br><br=
></blockquote></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"auto">Huh.&nbsp; I=
 probably should mention that I too would prefer to pay someone for this.&nb=
sp;&nbsp;<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Apparently where I li=
ve is too rural and no one is willing to come out here and I'm tired of begg=
ing to pay someone to do it.&nbsp; It's also been two weeks and I'm going to=
 go ahead and get this done.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">With that&nbsp;being said, any help?</div></div><br><div class=3D"=
gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 15, 2019, 11:=
35 AM Pat Horne &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:patintexas@icloud.com";>patintexas@iclo=
ud.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"aut=
o">Up until now this has all been a mental process, no physical damage can b=
e done by it.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>Not to be a wet blanket, but we can n=
ot help you be safe by explaining which bolts to loosen, that could be a rea=
l safety problem for you.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>You need to find th=
e installation manual for the door at a minimum. Or better yet, find someone=
 who has done this work before to do it for you or show you how.&nbsp; Perso=
nally, I=E2=80=99d rather you be out a few $$ to have someone do it rather t=
han many $$ for medical bills.&nbsp;<br><br>Peace,</div><div>Pat</div><div><=
br><div dir=3D"ltr">Pat Horne&nbsp;<div>We support Habitat for Humanity</div=
><div><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Oct 1=
5, 2019, at 10:53 AM, Scott Hall via Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shop-ta=
lk@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">shop-talk@autox.team=
.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div=
 dir=3D"auto">Which bolts am I loosening, Bill? The ones that appear to hold=
 to the shaft the fixture I'm going to be inserting the riffs into?<div dir=3D=
"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Oct 15, 2019, 9:58 AM=
 Bill Rabel &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:brabel@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D=
"noreferrer">brabel@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-=
left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Scott -<div><br></div><div>De-tension the spring=
s first. You will need two steel rods, 12=E2=80=9D - 18=E2=80=9D long. 3/8=E2=
=80=9D socket extensions work well.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Put one r=
od into the hole in the collar with the securing bolts in it. Hold on to the=
 rod when you loosen the bolts, and use the two rods to relieve the spring t=
ension, 1/4 turn at a time.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>- Bill Rabel</div=
><div>&nbsp; Anacortes, WA</div><div><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">






<p><span>=E2=80=9CPolitics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it </s=
pan><span>whether it exists or not</span><span>, diagnosing it incorrectly a=
nd applying the wrong </span><span>remedy.=E2=80=9D&nbsp;</span><span style=3D=
"font-size:13pt;background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">- Sir Ernest Benn</spa=
n></p></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Oct 14, 2019, a=
t 8:39 PM, Scott Hall via Shop-talk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.te=
am.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">shop-talk@autox.team=
.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<span>Got a new insulated garage door for winter here.=
 Need to remove the old door.</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><s=
pan>Torsion springs seem to be one of those things that drive emergency room=
 visits in real life, not just internet clickbait.</span><br><span></span><b=
r><span></span><br><span>Before I just do what Google says, I think I'd like=
 to hear from the real people on a subject like that. Can I somehow un-do th=
e cable ends from the door, or the cables from the springs and then remove t=
he door panels, or do I need to de-tension the torsion spring first?</span><=
br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>And if I need to de-tension it, w=
hat's the best method to avoid smashed skulls or broken limbs?</span><br><sp=
an></span><br><span></span><br><span>Thanks in advance.</span><br><span></sp=
an><br><span></span><br><span>Scott</span><br><span></span><br><span>_______=
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