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From: JAMES_S_WALLACE@HP-Canada-om1.om.hp.com
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 97 11:23:11 -0500
     If you're only using the heater for shots of heat while you work on a 
     car, a wood stove can be very comfortable. It too gives off radiant 
     heat and you can burn up your scrap lumber.
     I realize, however, that this isn't practical for everyone. It was the 
     radiant heat comment that got me going.
     Regards,
     Jim Wallace
     no Mog, only a tractor engine


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Author:  Non-HP-kneisley (kneisley@ohio.net) at HP-USA,mimegw5
Date:    07/11/97 9:44 AM


At 02:09 PM 11/7/97 -0500, you wrote:
     
Will and all,
     
Having just gone through the issue with a local heating contractor, garage 
heat has lots of ramifications.  The primary reason to heat is to protect 
the vehicle from rust and moisture.  Heating saturated air lowers the 
relative humidity and makes life dryer for the car.  In Ohio the outside air 
is extremely humid in the winter, and inside the house it becomes cracking, 
zapping dry.
     
However, combustion creates moisture, so when you burn something in the room 
with the car, the added moisture may well increase the Relative Humidity 
inside the garage, even though it becomes warmer. And the flame becomes a 
concern. I'm not too comfortable having a flame inside my garage considering 
the fuel vapor which oozes from the Mog (along with other assorted liquids).
     
The best way is infra-red heat, which heats objects rather than air, so when 
you open the door, the heat exchange is not so rapid.  However, that again 
involves a flame.  
     
My solution, though not the cheapest, has been to install a through the wall 
heater, which pulls outside air into the combustion chamber, and vents 
burned air to the outside.  The heat exchanger and fan move inside air 
across a heated surface and blows it into the garage.  
     
The furnace will be installed this week, and I'll know next year if my HVAC 
guy was right.
     
If the garage had a higher ceiling and room for a chimney, I would have gone 
with Infra-Red heat, but with an 8 foot ceiling and second story attic above 
it couldn't happen.
     
You are right about electric heat.  It gets very expensive at $.20/kwh.  But 
for short term might be better, because the installation is a lot less than 
a small through-wall furnace. 
     
Hope this helps.
     
     
Gary
Grafton, OH 
1991 +8
     
>Dear Mog-o-philes:
>
>Sorry, not much mog content here but I thought I'd ask you folks 'cuz I 
>figure someone might have a good suggestion, and its FOR the mog afterall, 
>so its worth it (!).  As the old poem once said, spring has sprung, fall 
>has fell, winter's here and its as cold as...  Well, not quite yet, but I'm 
>pondering the purchase of a heater for my garage and am stuck between two 
>options; kerosene and propane.  Any comments?  I'm leaning towards propane. 
> Electic is just too $$$, isn't it?
>
>My appologies for the lack of mog content but then, after the recent spate 
>of religion we've gotten I thought some simple organic chemistry would 
>clear the mind.
>
>have a warm dry weekend (if you don't live in NJ): 
>
>WZ
>
>


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