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Electric Healeys are a sacrilege. Also a really bad investment as funds for=
charging stations are cut (finally!) =C2=A0and car=C2=A0 manufacturers pul=
l back to cut their losses. E-cars may make sense for China, which simply b=
uilds more coal plants to recharge them as a way to reduce dependence on Ru=
ssian oil, polluting the planet in the process. But=C2=A0not for the US. Dr=
ill baby drill!=C2=A0=C2=A0
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On Monday, February 17, 2025, 9:35 PM, sbyers--- via Healeys <healeys@autox=
.team.net> wrote:
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Conversion of Healeys to electric power is already happening.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I=
know of three BJ8s that were sold individually to England and a company in=
London called =E2=80=9CRevival Autos=E2=80=9D was doing that conversion.=
=C2=A0 They were also offering the original engine from one of the cars on =
eBay.=C2=A0 They also have an address in Naples, FL =C2=A0and San Francisco
https://revivalautos
=C2=A0
Steve Byers
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
=C2=A0
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of alfuller194@gma=
il.com
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2025 6:52 PM
To: 'James Frey' <rcw414@icloud.com>; 'Michael Salter' <michaelsalter@gmail=
.com>
Cc: 'Healey List' <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Healeys] The Future of Healey Ownership
=C2=A0
Michael, Jim and All:
=C2=A0
Your comments below have me thinking about what I have valued in my Austin-=
Healeys, and by extension what others do, will, or might value in them =E2=
=80=93 as balanced against the costs of buying, restoring, upgrading or mai=
ntaining the cars.
=C2=A0
The Healey was never the fastest car I owned, and it was never the absolute=
best handling (though, the last BJ-8 with a new frame and gas shocks does =
handle pretty well). Obviously the Healey never had the most up-to-date saf=
ety features, and its exterior and dash lighting needed LED upgrades to per=
form even adequately. The list of things the cars were not is endless I com=
pared to modern cars=E2=80=A6
=C2=A0
BUT: driving a Healey usually put a smile on my face, and it appeared to pu=
t smiles on a lot of other people=E2=80=99s faces when out and about. As yo=
u all know, you cannot drive one of these cars without getting smiles, wave=
s, thumbs-up, casual nods, etc =E2=80=93 all acknowledging the wonderful lo=
oks the Healeys have!=C2=A0 If you park one, you will undoubtedly find your=
self in a conversation with someone who either had one and sold it, wished=
he had bought one way back when, wished he could buy one now, had an uncle=
who had one, or a cousin, or a friend=E2=80=99s dad, or, or, or=E2=80=A6 -=
you know how it goes!=C2=A0=20
=C2=A0
As much fun as it has been to drive my Healeys all over the US and Canada, =
as well as Norway, Denmark and Sweden =E2=80=93 I can say that maintaining =
the cars has been the sore spot for me, and I=E2=80=99m now at an age and p=
hysical condition where it=E2=80=99s somewhere between really-not-fun, real=
ly-not-practical and really-not-possible anymore. As such, this conversatio=
n hits home for me.
=C2=A0
SO =E2=80=93 what do I think about the future of Healey ownership? I suspec=
t there will always be a small cadre of serious collectors who want and val=
ue cars that are as original as possible (whether =E2=80=9Cconcours=E2=80=
=9D level, or just plain nice cars!). The pool of cars that survive in such=
condition is shrinking gradually, but then so is the pool of such people!=
=20
=C2=A0
I also suspect that there is a substantial and growing group who would love=
the opportunity to have a car with the classic styling of an Austin-Healey=
, but the reliability and drivability of a modern car. =E2=80=9CModern=E2=
=80=9D in this context may well be a very plastic term =E2=80=93 meaning di=
fferent things to different generations.=C2=A0 For today=E2=80=99s purposes=
I ask you all whether the future might be electric? An Austin-Healey that =
has good acceleration and brakes, good handling, no fluid leaks (!!) and fa=
r fewer to no 60 year-old parts to go bad =E2=80=93 all combined with the c=
lassic lines of the Healey.
=C2=A0
What do you say?
=C2=A0
-----------------------------------
All the best,
=C2=A0
Al Fuller
=C2=A0
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of James Frey via =
Healeys
Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2025 3:10 PM
To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Cc: Healey List <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Hello
=C2=A0
The costs you cite below are inexorably linked to the =E2=80=9CWhat to Do w=
ith our Healeys=E2=80=9D question that was also raised. =C2=A0Over the last=
several years, I have restored/built 3 cars with most of the work done by =
a local shop (one of which was a Bugeye). =C2=A0I needed to have most work =
performed by my shop. =C2=A0Although my skills are moderate and I enjoy tur=
ning wrenches, my time available to do so has lessened in recent years. =C2=
=A0
=C2=A0
Given the above circumstances, I have easily spent 2-3 times market value o=
n the purchase price, work performed, parts, etc. =C2=A0I consider myself l=
ucky to have a trusted local shop, but depending on where you live (even as=
suming you are willing to spend the money), it can be extraordinarily diffi=
cult to get the cars serviced, let alone have significant restoration work =
done. =C2=A0I also don=E2=80=99t see the value of most Healeys going up muc=
h, and it might go down given the (arguably) shrinking market/demographics =
for these cars. =C2=A0
=C2=A0
So given my recent experience, as much as I might love to own a BJ8 and wou=
ld consider myself =E2=80=9Ca trusted steward=E2=80=9D, paying significant =
dollars (even for a beautifully restored car) in a declining market might n=
ot be the best idea. =C2=A0As for a car that =E2=80=9Cneeds work=E2=80=9D, =
I=E2=80=99m starting to feel like I=E2=80=99ve been there and done that a l=
ittle too often. =C2=A0Also, there are fun (more modern) cars out there for=
similar dollars that don=E2=80=99t present the same financial risk and dif=
ficulties in selling. =C2=A0
=C2=A0
Lastly, I=E2=80=99m 61 (so not =E2=80=9Cyoung=E2=80=9D) and I think those t=
hat are younger than me are an even tougher sell. =C2=A0I have 2 adult sons=
that have a moderate interest in cars and the =E2=80=9Cold cars=E2=80=9D t=
hey might have an interest in are probably from 2000-2010. =C2=A0
=C2=A0
The market is undeniably softer than previously, but I actually think curre=
nt values are a sellers market, even in the US. =C2=A0With the potential fo=
r declining demand, it=E2=80=99s hard for me to see an improving Healey mar=
ket over the next 10+ years. =C2=A0
=C2=A0
Jim
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
On Feb 16, 2025, at 2:16=E2=80=AFPM, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.co=
m> wrote:
=C2=A0
Very good question.=C2=A0
All the work that you describe requires an individual with significant skil=
l(s). These tasks are not something that your "run of the mill" parts chang=
er can undertake.=C2=A0 In our part of the world (Canada) those "parts chan=
gers", without breaking a sweat can easily pull in 6 figures which equates =
to $50/hr. $50/hr paid to the tradesman will typically be charged out at an=
hourly rate of at least $100.
In my book a full restoration takes 1200 hours at least, usually a lot more=
to produce concours standards.
So labour ONLY $120K.
Parts and materials usually at least 50% of labour. $60K.
Incidentals at least another $20K
It's getting up there =F0=9F=98=B3=F0=9F=98=B3
=C2=A0
M
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
On Sun., Feb. 16, 2025, 1:40 p.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <healeys@autox=
.team.net> wrote:
The list has been very quiet for a long time.
How about a discussion about the cost of restoring a BN1?=C2=A0
The metal work is About 90% done. The remaining work includes final fitting=
all body panels, preparing for paint & final painting.
Wiring, plumbing including rebuilding the brakes, interior, fitting the win=
dscreen, convertible top, side curtains including providing all material wh=
ere necessary.=C2=A0
Rebuild the engine including all the machining. I have all the necessary co=
mponents.
=C2=A0
Gary Hodson
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
On Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 10:46:32 AM CST, Mike Sinclair via Healeys =
<healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:=20
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Is it me, or is the list quiet?=C2=A0 I haven't seen anything for quite a w=
hile?
Mik
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Electric Healeys are a sacrilege. Also a really bad investment as funds for=
charging stations are cut (finally!) and car manufacturers pul=
l back to cut their losses. E-cars may make sense for China, which simply b=
uilds more coal plants to recharge them as a way to reduce dependence on Ru=
ssian oil, polluting the planet in the process. But not for the US. Dr=
ill baby drill! <br><br><br><div class=3D"yahoo-signature"><a st=
yle=3D"font-size:12px" href=3D"https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email=
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b(132, 115, 255); padding-top: 15px; margin-top: 0px;">On Monday, February =
17, 2025, 9:35 PM, sbyers--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net> wro=
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Conversion of Healeys to electric power is already happening.<span style=3D=
""> </span><span style=3D""> </span>I know of three BJ8s that we=
re sold individually to England and a company in London called =E2=80=9CRev=
ival Autos=E2=80=9D was doing that conversion.<span style=3D""> </spa=
n>They were also offering the original engine from one of the cars on eBay.=
<span style=3D""> </span>They also have an address in Naples, FL <spa=
n style=3D""> </span>and San Francisco</span></p><p class=3D"yiv865446=
0234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"><a =
rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=
=3D"https://revivalautos";>https://revivalautos</a></span></p><p class=3D"yi=
v8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-seri=
f;"> </span></p><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Steve Byers</span></p><p class=3D"y=
iv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-ser=
if;"> BJ8 Registry</span></p><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">AHCA Delegate at Large</span=
></p><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;fo=
nt-family:sans-serif;"> </span></p><div id=3D"yiv8654460234yqt21292" =
class=3D"yiv8654460234yqt8572987622"><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-=
top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class=3D"yiv86544602=
34MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;font=
-weight:bold;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
sans-serif;"> Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> <b><span style=
=3D"font-weight:bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>alfuller194@gmail.com<br cle=
ar=3D"none"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, F=
ebruary 17, 2025 6:52 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bo=
ld;">To:</span></b> 'James Frey' <rcw414@icloud.com>; 'Michael Salter=
' <michaelsalter@gmail.com><br clear=3D"none"><b><span style=3D"font-=
weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> 'Healey List' <healeys@autox.team.net><b=
r clear=3D"none"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> [=
Healeys] The Future of Healey Ownership</span></p></div></div><p class=3D"y=
iv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> </span></p>=
<p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-fa=
mily:sans-serif;">Michael, Jim and All:</span></p><p class=3D"yiv8654460234=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> =
</span></p><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.=
0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Your comments below have me thinking about wha=
t I have valued in my Austin-Healeys, and by extension what others do, will=
, or might value in them =E2=80=93 as balanced against the costs of buying,=
restoring, upgrading or maintaining the cars.</span></p><p class=3D"yiv865=
4460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">=
</span></p><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">The Healey was never the fastest car I =
owned, and it was never the absolute best handling (though, the last BJ-8 w=
ith a new frame and gas shocks does handle pretty well). Obviously the Heal=
ey never had the most up-to-date safety features, and its exterior and dash=
lighting needed LED upgrades to perform even adequately. The list of thing=
s the cars were not is endless I compared to modern cars=E2=80=A6</span></p=
><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-f=
amily:sans-serif;"> </span></p><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">BUT: driving a Heale=
y usually put a smile on my face, and it appeared to put smiles on a lot of=
other people=E2=80=99s faces when out and about. As you all know, you cann=
ot drive one of these cars without getting smiles, waves, thumbs-up, casual=
nods, etc =E2=80=93 all acknowledging the wonderful looks the Healeys have=
! If you park one, you will undoubtedly find your self in a conversat=
ion with someone who either had one and sold it, wished he had bought one w=
ay back when, wished he could buy one now, had an uncle who had one, or a c=
ousin, or a friend=E2=80=99s dad, or, or, or=E2=80=A6 - you know how it goe=
s! </span></p><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span></p><p class=3D"yiv8654=
460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">A=
s much fun as it has been to drive my Healeys all over the US and Canada, a=
s well as Norway, Denmark and Sweden =E2=80=93 I can say that maintaining t=
he cars has been the sore spot for me, and I=E2=80=99m now at an age and ph=
ysical condition where it=E2=80=99s somewhere between really-not-fun, reall=
y-not-practical and really-not-possible anymore. As such, this conversation=
hits home for me.</span></p><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span></p><p class=
=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:san=
s-serif;">SO =E2=80=93 what do I think about the future of Healey ownership=
? I suspect there will always be a small cadre of serious collectors who wa=
nt and value cars that are as original as possible (whether =E2=80=9Cconcou=
rs=E2=80=9D level, or just plain nice cars!). The pool of cars that survive=
in such condition is shrinking gradually, but then so is the pool of such =
people! </span></p><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span></p><p class=3D"yiv86544=
60234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">I =
also suspect that there is a substantial and growing group who would love t=
he opportunity to have a car with the classic styling of an Austin-Healey, =
but the reliability and drivability of a modern car. =E2=80=9CModern=E2=80=
=9D in this context may well be a very plastic term =E2=80=93 meaning diffe=
rent things to different generations. For today=E2=80=99s purposes I =
ask you all whether the future might be electric? An Austin-Healey that has=
good acceleration and brakes, good handling, no fluid leaks (!!) and far f=
ewer to no 60 year-old parts to go bad =E2=80=93 all combined with the clas=
sic lines of the Healey.</span></p><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span></p><p c=
lass=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family=
:sans-serif;">What do you say?</span></p><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span></=
p><div><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:sans-serif;">-----------------------------------</span></p><p c=
lass=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family=
:sans-serif;">All the best,</span></p><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span></p><=
p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-fam=
ily:sans-serif;">Al Fuller</span></p></div><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span>=
</p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3=
.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p style=3D"" class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><b><span =
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;font-weight:bold;">From:</=
span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> Healeys =
<<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailt=
o:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys-=
bounces@autox.team.net">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b><span sty=
le=3D"font-weight:bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>James Frey via Healeys<br =
clear=3D"none"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday=
, February 16, 2025 3:10 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b><span style=3D"font-weight=
:bold;">To:</span></b> Michael Salter <<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noref=
errer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; target=3D"=
_blank" href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";>michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>=
><br clear=3D"none"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> =
Healey List <<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymai=
lto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:heal=
eys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br clear=3D"none"><b><sp=
an style=3D"font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Healeys] Hello</spa=
n></p></div></div><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:12.0pt;"> </span></p></div><div><div><div><div id=3D"yiv865446023=
4yqt23825" class=3D"yiv8654460234yqt8572987622"><p class=3D"yiv8654460234Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;">The costs you cite below are ine=
xorably linked to the =E2=80=9CWhat to Do with our Healeys=E2=80=9D questio=
n that was also raised. Over the last several years, I have restored/=
built 3 cars with most of the work done by a local shop (one of which was a=
Bugeye). I needed to have most work performed by my shop. Alth=
ough my skills are moderate and I enjoy turning wrenches, my time available=
to do so has lessened in recent years. </span></p><div><p class=3D"y=
iv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> </span></p>=
</div></div><div><div id=3D"yiv8654460234yqt25479" class=3D"yiv8654460234yq=
t8572987622"><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.5pt;">Given the above circumstances, I have easily spent 2-3 times market=
value on the purchase price, work performed, parts, etc. I consider =
myself lucky to have a trusted local shop, but depending on where you live =
(even assuming you are willing to spend the money), it can be extraordinari=
ly difficult to get the cars serviced, let alone have significant restorati=
on work done. I also don=E2=80=99t see the value of most Healeys goin=
g up much, and it might go down given the (arguably) shrinking market/demog=
raphics for these cars. </span></p><div><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> </span></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;">So given m=
y recent experience, as much as I might love to own a BJ8 and would conside=
r myself =E2=80=9Ca trusted steward=E2=80=9D, paying significant dollars (e=
ven for a beautifully restored car) in a declining market might not be the =
best idea. As for a car that =E2=80=9Cneeds work=E2=80=9D, I=E2=80=99=
m starting to feel like I=E2=80=99ve been there and done that a little too =
often. Also, there are fun (more modern) cars out there for similar d=
ollars that don=E2=80=99t present the same financial risk and difficulties =
in selling. </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> </span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;">Lastly, I=E2=80=
=99m 61 (so not =E2=80=9Cyoung=E2=80=9D) and I think those that are younger=
than me are an even tougher sell. I have 2 adult sons that have a mo=
derate interest in cars and the =E2=80=9Cold cars=E2=80=9D they might have =
an interest in are probably from 2000-2010. </span></p></div><div><p =
class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> <=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10.5pt;">The market is undeniably softer than previously, but I actu=
ally think current values are a sellers market, even in the US. With =
the potential for declining demand, it=E2=80=99s hard for me to see an impr=
oving Healey market over the next 10+ years. </span></p></div><div><p=
class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> =
</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.5pt;">Jim</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> </span></p></div></div><div><di=
v id=3D"yiv8654460234yqt41492" class=3D"yiv8654460234yqt8572987622"><p clas=
s=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> </spa=
n></p><div><p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;" class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> </span></p><blockquote style=
=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><p class=3D"yiv8654460234Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">On Feb 16, 2025, at 2:16=E2=80=
=AFPM, Michael Salter <<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"=
rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"=
mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com";>michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</spa=
n></p></div><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12=
.0pt;"> </span></p><div><div><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">Very good question. </span></p><div><p c=
lass=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">All the w=
ork that you describe requires an individual with significant skill(s). The=
se tasks are not something that your "run of the mill" parts changer can un=
dertake. In our part of the world (Canada) those "parts changers", wi=
thout breaking a sweat can easily pull in 6 figures which equates to $50/hr=
. $50/hr paid to the tradesman will typically be charged out at an hourly r=
ate of at least $100.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">In my book a full restoration takes 1=
200 hours at least, usually a lot more to produce concours standards.</span=
></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12.0pt;">So labour ONLY $120K.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv865446=
0234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">Parts and materials usuall=
y at least 50% of labour. $60K.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv8654460=
234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">Incidentals at least anothe=
r $20K</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">It's getting up there </span><span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:UI sans-serif;">=F0=9F=98=B3=F0=9F=98=B3</span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> </span=
></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12.0pt;">M</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span=
style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> </span></p></div></div><p class=3D"yiv8=
654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> </span></p><di=
v><div><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;=
">On Sun., Feb. 16, 2025, 1:40 p.m. warthodson--- via Healeys, <<a rel=
=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>he=
aleys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</span></p></div><blockquote style=3D"bo=
rder:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-=
left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><di=
v><div><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;=
font-family:Sans;">The list has been very quiet for a long time.</span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.=
0pt;font-family:Sans;">How about a discussion about the cost of restoring a=
BN1? </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Sans;">The metal work is About 90% do=
ne. The remaining work includes final fitting all body panels, preparing fo=
r paint & final painting.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv865446023=
4MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Sans;">Wiring, plum=
bing including rebuilding the brakes, interior, fitting the windscreen, con=
vertible top, side curtains including providing all material where necessar=
y. </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Sans;">Rebuild the engine including all =
the machining. I have all the necessary components.</span></p></div><div><p=
class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-fami=
ly:Sans;"> </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Sans;">Gary Hodson</span></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0p=
t;font-family:Sans;"> </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv8654460234=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Sans;"> </span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:12.0pt;font-family:Sans;"> </span></p></div></div><div id=3D"yiv8654=
460234m_6446190483034331511ydpaa12e928yahoo_quoted_0398894478"><div><div><d=
iv><p class=3D"yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">On Sunday, February 16, 2025 at 10:46:32=
AM CST, Mike Sinclair via Healeys <<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferr=
er" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_bla=
nk" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>> w=
rote: </span></p></div></div><div style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #C=
CCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:6.0pt;"><div><p class=3D"=
yiv8654460234MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-se=
rif;color:#26282A;"> </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv8654460234M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#262=
82A;"> </span></p></div><div><div id=3D"yiv8654460234m_64461904830343=
31511ydpaa12e928yiv3642250353"><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Is it me, or is the list quiet? I =
haven't seen anything for quite a while?</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;"></span></p><p><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:#26282A;">Mik</span><span style=
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