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Bob,
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Thanks as well for the background, and appreciate the thoughts on =
standard vs quick rack. Always helpful! We have not decided on whether =
it is rebuildable, but also thinking ahead if it needs replaced.
=20
By the way, who make/sells rebuild kits, if any?
=20
Mark
=20
From: Robert Lang [mailto:robertlangtr6@yahoo.com]=20
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2025 4:41 PM
To: Mark Cook; FOT Triumph
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 Steering quick rack replacement source?
=20
Hi,
=20
I'll toss in some 411 on this topic.
=20
At the 2021 VRG Pitt Race, or maybe it was the 2022 Kastner Cup, Tivvy =
expressed "real concern" about my steering rack. There was a lot of play =
at the passenger side inner steering tie rod. So Ned and I drove the car =
back to the paddock for a look-see. Turns out the passenger side plastic =
bushing had turned into 3 or 4 pieces that were floating around in the =
steering boot. We pulled out the pieces and verified that they could be =
formed into a complete bushing so we knew there was nothing floating in =
there that could cause the steering to bind and went back to chat with =
Tivvy. He gave us a pass under the prevision that we'd replace the rack =
before Watkins Glen (which we did).
=20
So, in taking apart the unit completely, I can say the following: The =
quick racks are pretty fun for the street and autox. That said, they =
suck for racing. There is NO WAY to rebuild them. They are permanently =
joined inside the rack in other words, you can fix anything with shims =
and the plastic bushing fails somewhat easily and you can't get the rack =
apart to install a replacement bushing, even if such a part was =
available. If I was really convinced that a new rack was the only =
choice, I would engineer a replacement bushing that could be installed =
without removing the rack, but that possibility is way outside my skill =
set.
=20
There was also reports a long time ago about the tubes pulling apart =
from the pinion housing and Moss used to sell (I haven't checked for a =
while) a rack mount that "captured" the housing in such a way as to =
allow partial steering control if that separation occurred.
=20
My conclusion - used racks are still available as-are the inner tie rods =
and bushings / shims to set the end float to spec, so I strongly =
recommend that route. Sidebar: I use plastic tie wraps to secure the =
boots rather than the clamps and/'or wire tie that the stock setup uses =
and rather than filling the rack with oil, I grease the pinion and then =
apply a dallop of grease on the inner tie rod end once a year or so. The =
racks seem to last quite long using that method.
=20
I hope this helps.
=20
Regards,
Bob Lang
=20
On Monday, November 24, 2025 at 11:48:41 AM EST, Mark Cook via Fot =
<fot@autox.team.net> wrote:=20
=20
=20
Looking to replace one of my TR6 race car steering racks which is =
wearing out. Other than a 2.5 quick rack, any particular =
recommendations, where to purchase?
=20
Thanks,
=20
Mark Cook
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>Bob,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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>Thanks as well for the background, and appreciate the thoughts on =
standard vs quick rack.=C2=A0 Always helpful!=C2=A0 We have not decided =
on whether it is rebuildable, but also thinking ahead if it needs =
replaced.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
>By the way, who make/sells rebuild kits, if =
any?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'=
>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Robert Lang [mailto:robertlangtr6@yahoo.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, =
November 24, 2025 4:41 PM<br><b>To:</b> Mark Cook; FOT =
Triumph<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] TR6 Steering quick rack replacement =
source?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Hi,<o:p><=
/o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>I'll =
toss in some 411 on this topic.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>At the =
2021 VRG Pitt Race, or maybe it was the 2022 Kastner Cup, Tivvy =
expressed "real concern" about my steering rack. There was a =
lot of play at the passenger side inner steering tie rod. So Ned and I =
drove the car back to the paddock for a look-see. Turns out the =
passenger side plastic bushing had turned into 3 or 4 pieces that were =
floating around in the steering boot. We pulled out the pieces and =
verified that they could be formed into a complete bushing so we knew =
there was nothing floating in there that could cause the steering to =
bind and went back to chat with Tivvy. He gave us a pass under the =
prevision that we'd replace the rack before Watkins Glen (which we =
did).<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>So, in =
taking apart the unit completely, I can say the following: The quick =
racks are pretty fun for the street and autox. That said, they suck for =
racing. There is NO WAY to rebuild them. They are permanently joined =
inside the rack in other words, you can fix anything with shims and the =
plastic bushing fails somewhat easily and you can't get the rack apart =
to install a replacement bushing, even if such a part was available. If =
I was really convinced that a new rack was the only choice, I would =
engineer a replacement bushing that could be installed without removing =
the rack, but that possibility is way outside my skill =
set.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>There =
was also reports a long time ago about the tubes pulling apart from the =
pinion housing and Moss used to sell (I haven't checked for a while) a =
rack mount that "captured" the housing in such a way as to =
allow partial steering control if that separation =
occurred.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>My =
conclusion - used racks are still available as-are the inner tie rods =
and bushings / shims to set the end float to spec, so I strongly =
recommend that route. Sidebar: I use plastic tie wraps to secure the =
boots rather than the clamps and/'or wire tie that the stock setup uses =
and rather than filling the rack with oil, I grease the pinion and then =
apply a dallop of grease on the inner tie rod end once a year or so. The =
racks seem to last quite long using that =
method.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>I hope =
this helps.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Regards,<=
o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>Bob =
Lang<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3D"ydpc4b814a6yahoo_quoted_4232692074"><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>On =
Monday, November 24, 2025 at 11:48:41 AM EST, Mark Cook via Fot =
<fot@autox.team.net> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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p;</o:p></span></p></div><div><div id=3Dydpc4b814a6yiv0397742572><div><p =
style=3D'margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Looking to =
replace one of my TR6 race car steering racks which is wearing =
out. Other than a 2.5 quick rack, any particular recommendations, =
where to purchase?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
style=3D'margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p><=
/span></p><p style=3D'margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p><p style=3D'margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span =
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