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Re: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion

To: "Barr, Scott" <sbarr@McCarty-Law.com>, "Barr, Scott via Fot" <fot@autox.team.net>, Rod Pierce <rpierce141@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion
From: JOE CURRY via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2023 11:12:22 -0400 (EDT)
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If I had a GT6 gearbox, I would compare the input shaft gear with one of the 
Spit input shafts I have just to see what gives.
 
Joe

> On 10/12/2023 10:35 AM EDT Barr, Scott <sbarr@mccarty-law.com> wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> And yet it worked fine.  Perfectly.  Go figure.
> 
>  
> 
> Scott (B.)
> 
>  
> 
> From: JOE CURRY <spitlist@cox.net>
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 9:33 AM
> To: Barr, Scott <sbarr@McCarty-Law.com>; Barr, Scott via Fot 
> <fot@autox.team.net>; Rod Pierce <rpierce141@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion
> 
>  
> 
> Since the GT6 gearbox has a different gearset than the Spitfire has, I can't 
> see how that would work.  The first gear for the 3-rail Spitfire has a ratio 
> of 3.75 compared to 2.65 for the GT6, therefore the input shaft gear won't 
> mesh with the gears in the GT6 box.  Here is a link to the summary of what I 
> did way back in 2000 when I adapted a Mk3 GT6 gearbox to work with a small 
> journal 1296 that I used in my autocross prepared Mk1 Spit:  
> https://www.geocities.ws/MotorCity/Speedway/1080/gt6boxtospit.html.
> 
>  
> 
> Joe
> 
> > 
> > On 10/12/2023 9:31 AM EDT Barr, Scott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net 
> > mailto:fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > When I had this done some years ago, I took the job to a local 
> > racer-transmission guy.  After fiddling with it a bit, he just put the 
> > Spitfire input shaft into the GT6 trans and it worked fine.  GT6 gearbox 
> > for my Spit racer, no cutting, welding, etc. required.  It worked great for 
> > a few seasons until I pulled it to install an overdrive trans.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Could just be luck?  I understand that there are a number of variations of 
> > gear constructions and maybe I just happened to bring him two that matched? 
> >  Who knows.  But it worked for me.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Scott (B.)
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > From: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net> On 
> > Behalf Of Rod Pierce via Fot
> > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 7:57 AM
> > To: Rod Pierce via Fot <fot@autox.team.net mailto:fot@autox.team.net>
> > Subject: [Fot] GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I have a GT6 transmission in my spares collection and I have heard they can 
> > be converted to run in a Spitfire.  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > I'm interested in accomplishing this over the winter and I am looking for 
> > information/advice on the best way to do it.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > It is my understanding that you can have the GT6 input shaft either 
> > machined to fit or you can cut the input shafts from a GT6 and a Spitfire 
> > and weld the Spitfire on the GT6 transmission.
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
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   If I had a GT6 gearbox, I would compare the input shaft gear with one of the 
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   Joe
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    On 10/12/2023 10:35 AM EDT Barr, Scott &lt;sbarr@mccarty-law.com&gt; wrote:
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    <p class="MsoNormal">And yet it worked fine.&nbsp; Perfectly.&nbsp; Go 
figure.</p>
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    <p class="MsoNormal">Scott (B.)</p>
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      <p class="MsoNormal"><strong>From:</strong> JOE CURRY 
&lt;spitlist@cox.net&gt; <br><strong>Sent:</strong> Thursday, October 12, 2023 
9:33 AM<br><strong>To:</strong> Barr, Scott &lt;sbarr@McCarty-Law.com&gt;; 
Barr, Scott via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;; Rod Pierce 
&lt;rpierce141@gmail.com&gt;<br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Fot] 
GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion</p>
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     <p class="MsoNormal">Since the GT6 gearbox has a different gearset than 
the Spitfire has, I can't see how that would work.&nbsp; The first gear for the 
3-rail Spitfire has a ratio of 3.75 compared to 2.65 for the GT6, therefore the 
input shaft gear won't mesh with the gears in the GT6 box.&nbsp; Here is a link 
to the summary of what I did way back in 2000 when I adapted a Mk3 GT6 gearbox 
to work with a small journal 1296 that I used in my autocross prepared Mk1 
Spit: &nbsp;<a 
href="https://www.geocities.ws/MotorCity/Speedway/1080/gt6boxtospit.html";>https://www.geocities.ws/MotorCity/Speedway/1080/gt6boxtospit.html</a>.</p>
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     <p class="MsoNormal">Joe</p>
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      <p class="MsoNormal">On 10/12/2023 9:31 AM EDT Barr, Scott via Fot &lt;<a 
href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</p>
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      <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; 
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;">When I had this done some years ago, I took the 
job to a local racer-transmission guy.&nbsp; After fiddling with it a bit, he 
just put the Spitfire input shaft into the GT6 trans and it worked fine.&nbsp; 
GT6 gearbox for my Spit racer, no cutting, welding, etc. required.&nbsp; It 
worked great for a few seasons until I pulled it to install an overdrive 
trans.</p>
      <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; 
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;">&nbsp;</p>
      <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; 
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;">Could just be luck?&nbsp; I understand that there 
are a number of variations of gear constructions and maybe I just happened to 
bring him two that matched?&nbsp; Who knows.&nbsp; But it worked for me.</p>
      <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; 
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;">&nbsp;</p>
      <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; 
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;">Scott (B.)</p>
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mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;">&nbsp;</p>
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       <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; 
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><strong><span style="font-family: 
'Calibri',sans-serif;">From:</span></strong> Fot &lt;<a 
href="mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net";>fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; 
<strong><span style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">On Behalf Of 
</span></strong>Rod Pierce via Fot<br><strong><span style="font-family: 
'Calibri',sans-serif;">Sent:</span></strong> Thursday, October 12, 2023 7:57 
AM<br><strong><span style="font-family: 
'Calibri',sans-serif;">To:</span></strong> Rod Pierce via Fot &lt;<a 
href="mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><strong><span 
style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">Subject:</span></strong> [Fot] 
GT6-Spitfire Transmission Conversion</p>
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      <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; 
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;">&nbsp;</p>
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       <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; 
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;">I have a GT6 transmission in my spares collection 
and I have heard they can be converted to run in a Spitfire.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; 
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;">&nbsp;</p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; 
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;">I'm interested in accomplishing this over the 
winter and I am looking for information/advice on the best way to do it.</p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; 
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;">&nbsp;</p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; 
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;">It is my understanding that you can have the GT6 
input shaft either machined to fit or you can cut the input shafts from a GT6 
and a Spitfire and weld the Spitfire on the GT6 transmission.</p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; 
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;">&nbsp;</p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; 
mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;">Thanks</p>
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