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To: 'Tony Drews' <tony@tonydrews.com>, "fot@autox.team.net" <fot@autox.team.net>, Alexandre Camoletti <ac@camoletti.ch>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Frame paint
From: Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2023 20:19:29 +0000 (UTC)
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 Now that powder coating has become readily available, and reasonably cheap=
, that would seem to be the way to go.=C2=A0 I use it for all suspension pa=
rts, brackets, etc.=C2=A0 Not sure most facilities could handle a frame!
Jack

    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 02:43:29 PM EDT, Alexandre Camoletti=
 <ac@camoletti.ch> wrote: =20
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=20
Merci Jack=C2=A0!=20

I was about to answer the same=C2=A0: Dupont (now Cromax) Imron 700 is a 2k=
 polyurethane paint, HD stuff very durable, made for industrial use. I use =
it all the time for suspension parts, brackets, etc.

But you need to spray it and know what you are doing, it is indeed very tox=
ic, and cannot be brushed.=20

Use the TDS and prime correctly (epoxy is a good recommendation, such as Cr=
omax 840/845, but not too thick, again check the TDS and use correctly with=
 the correct equipment).

Otherwise get it simply powdercoated (in a lighter coulour to easily see cr=
acks, and leaks from components)

A presto=C2=A0!

Alex Camoletti

 =C2=A0

De=C2=A0: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] De la part de Jack Wheele=
r via Fot
Envoy=C3=A9=C2=A0: jeudi 28 septembre 2023 14:48
=C3=80=C2=A0: fot@autox.team.net; Tony Drews
Objet=C2=A0: Re: [Fot] Frame paint

 =C2=A0

I don't know if it is even still available, but years ago I painted the fra=
me on my race car with Dupont Imron.=C2=A0 It was the most durable paint av=
ailable at the time, and my experience reflected that.=C2=A0 The stuff is v=
ery toxic, so you must use a very good respirator.

 =C2=A0

Jack

 =C2=A0

On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 02:28:28 AM EDT, Tony Drews via Fot <fot=
@autox.team.net> wrote:=20

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

Grey will show cracks better than black.=C2=A0 POR is the first thing that =
came to mind for me, but it's been YEARS since I used it.

Cheers, Tony

On 9/27/2023 10:21 PM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote:

I'd suggest POR 15.=C2=A0 Depending on the color, the number changes.=C2=A0=
 I think 15 is black.=C2=A0 Gray is something else, maybe 10.=C2=A0 Spray o=
r brush on.=C2=A0 I've used Rustoleum as the touchup rattle spray cans are =
perfectly matched to the quart cans, and you can get it just about anywhere=
.=C2=A0 POR products might be a little more durable than Rustoleum.=C2=A0 I=
f the frame is bare metal, an epoxy primer is a good start, but with POR I =
"think" you can skip the primer.=C2=A0=C2=A0=20

Dave H.=C2=A0=C2=A0=20

=C2=A0=20

On 09/27/2023 5:55 PM PDT McKearn McKearn via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrot=
e:=20

=C2=A0=20

=C2=A0=20

Hi All.=20

=C2=A0 It's been a long time since I've painted a frame and I'm just wonder=
ing what the latest / greatest thing to use is for a race car frame ? It's =
already=C2=A0sand blasted if that matters..=20

=C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks.=C2=A0 P.J.=20

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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Now that powder coating has =
become readily available, and reasonably cheap, that would seem to be the w=
ay to go.&nbsp; I use it for all suspension parts, brackets, etc.&nbsp; Not=
 sure most facilities could handle a frame!</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setd=
ir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Jack<br></div=
><div><br></div>
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                    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 02:43:29 PM EDT, Ale=
xandre Camoletti &lt;ac@camoletti.ch&gt; wrote:
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                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747"><div><div class=
=3D"ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747WordSection1"><p class=3D"ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405=
747MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#44546A;">Merci Jack&nbsp;! </span></p><=
p class=3D"ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#44546A;=
">I was about to answer the same&nbsp;: Dupont (now Cromax) Imron 700 is a =
2k polyurethane paint, HD stuff very durable, made for industrial use. I us=
e it all the time for suspension parts, brackets, etc.</span></p><p class=
=3D"ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#44546A;">But y=
ou need to spray it and know what you are doing, it is indeed very toxic, a=
nd cannot be brushed. </span></p><p class=3D"ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"color:#44546A;">Use the TDS and prime correctly (epoxy =
is a good recommendation, such as Cromax 840/845, but not too thick, again =
check the TDS and use correctly with the correct equipment).</span></p><p c=
lass=3D"ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#44546A;">O=
therwise get it simply powdercoated (in a lighter coulour to easily see cra=
cks, and leaks from components)</span></p><p class=3D"ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405=
747MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#44546A;">A presto&nbsp;!</span></p><p c=
lass=3D"ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#44546A;">A=
lex Camoletti</span></p><p class=3D"ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"color:#44546A;"> &nbsp;</span></p><div><div style=3D"border-colo=
r: rgb(181, 196, 223) currentcolor currentcolor; border-style: solid none n=
one; border-width: 1pt medium medium; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;"><p class=3D"yd=
pe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;" lang=
=3D"FR">De&nbsp;:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;" lang=3D"FR"> =
Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>De la part de</b> Jack Wheeler v=
ia Fot<br clear=3D"none"><b>Envoy=C3=A9&nbsp;:</b> jeudi 28 septembre 2023 =
14:48<br clear=3D"none"><b>=C3=80&nbsp;:</b> fot@autox.team.net; Tony Drews=
<br clear=3D"none"><b>Objet&nbsp;:</b> Re: [Fot] Frame paint</span></p></di=
v></div><div id=3D"ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747yqt36529" class=3D"ydpe62fd2f9yi=
v0392405747yqt5581667776"><p class=3D"ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"> &=
nbsp;</p><div><div><p class=3D"ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">I don't know if it is even still available, but ye=
ars ago I painted the frame on my race car with Dupont Imron.&nbsp; It was =
the most durable paint available at the time, and my experience reflected t=
hat.&nbsp; The stuff is very toxic, so you must use a very good respirator.=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpe62=
fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Jack</span><=
/p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div></div><div id=3D"ydpe62fd2f9yiv=
0392405747ydpc738254eyahoo_quoted_6378525148"><div><div><p class=3D"ydpe62f=
d2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282A;"=
>On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 02:28:28 AM EDT, Tony Drews via Fot &lt=
;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote: </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpe62fd2f=
9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282A;"> &=
nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282A;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div=
><div id=3D"ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747ydpc738254eyiv2026604046"><div><p><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282A;">Grey will show cracks better tha=
n black.&nbsp; POR is the first thing that came to mind for me, but it's be=
en YEARS since I used it.</span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;colo=
r:#26282A;">Cheers, Tony</span></p><div id=3D"ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747ydpc7=
38254eyiv2026604046yqtfd35055"><div><p class=3D"ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282A;">On 9/27/2023 10:21 =
PM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote:</span></p></div></div></div><div><div id=3D"y=
dpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747ydpc738254eyiv2026604046yqtfd17211"><div><p class=3D=
"ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#333333;">I'd sugg=
est POR 15.&nbsp; Depending on the color, the number changes.&nbsp; I think=
 15 is black.&nbsp; Gray is something else, maybe 10.&nbsp; Spray or brush =
on.&nbsp; I've used Rustoleum as the touchup rattle spray cans are perfectl=
y matched to the quart cans, and you can get it just about anywhere.&nbsp; =
POR products might be a little more durable than Rustoleum.&nbsp; If the fr=
ame is bare metal, an epoxy primer is a good start, but with POR I "think" =
you can skip the primer.&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpe=
62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#333333;">Dave H.&nbsp;=
&nbsp; </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"color:#333333;">&nbsp; </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yd=
pe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#333333;">On 09/27/20=
23 5:55 PM PDT McKearn McKearn via Fot <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:fot=
@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">&lt;fot@autox.team.net&=
gt;</a> wrote: </span></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405=
747MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#333333;">&nbsp; </span></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#333333;=
">&nbsp; </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"color:#333333;">Hi All. </span></p><div><p class=3D"ydpe6=
2fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#333333;">&nbsp; It's be=
en a long time since I've painted a frame and I'm just wondering what the l=
atest / greatest thing to use is for a race car frame ? It's already&nbsp;s=
and blasted if that matters.. </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpe62fd2f9=
yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#333333;">&nbsp; &nbsp;Thanks.=
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