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To: FOT Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Frame paint
From: Joe Boruch via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2023 02:22:19 +0000 (UTC)
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 Jesse Prather has chassis and cages powder coated for many of the cars tha=
t he has been building.=C2=A0 Looks great, but out of my budget.=C2=A0 JoeB=
=C2=A0=C2=A0
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 09:21:45 PM EDT, Jack Wheeler via Fo=
t <fot@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
  Now that powder coating has become readily available, and reasonably chea=
p, that would seem to be the way to go.=C2=A0 I use it for all suspension p=
arts, brackets, etc.=C2=A0 Not sure most facilities could handle a frame!
Jack

    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 02:43:29 PM EDT, Alexandre Camoletti=
 <ac@camoletti.ch> wrote: =20
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=20
Merci Jack=C2=A0!=20

I was about to answer the same=C2=A0: Dupont (now Cromax) Imron 700 is a 2k=
 polyurethane paint, HD stuff very durable, made for industrial use. I use =
it all the time for suspension parts, brackets, etc.

But you need to spray it and know what you are doing, it is indeed very tox=
ic, and cannot be brushed.=20

Use the TDS and prime correctly (epoxy is a good recommendation, such as Cr=
omax 840/845, but not too thick, again check the TDS and use correctly with=
 the correct equipment).

Otherwise get it simply powdercoated (in a lighter coulour to easily see cr=
acks, and leaks from components)

A presto=C2=A0!

Alex Camoletti

 =C2=A0

De=C2=A0: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] De la part de Jack Wheele=
r via Fot
Envoy=C3=A9=C2=A0: jeudi 28 septembre 2023 14:48
=C3=80=C2=A0: fot@autox.team.net; Tony Drews
Objet=C2=A0: Re: [Fot] Frame paint

 =C2=A0

I don't know if it is even still available, but years ago I painted the fra=
me on my race car with Dupont Imron.=C2=A0 It was the most durable paint av=
ailable at the time, and my experience reflected that.=C2=A0 The stuff is v=
ery toxic, so you must use a very good respirator.

 =C2=A0

Jack

 =C2=A0

On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 02:28:28 AM EDT, Tony Drews via Fot <fot=
@autox.team.net> wrote:=20

 =C2=A0

 =C2=A0

Grey will show cracks better than black.=C2=A0 POR is the first thing that =
came to mind for me, but it's been YEARS since I used it.

Cheers, Tony

On 9/27/2023 10:21 PM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote:

I'd suggest POR 15.=C2=A0 Depending on the color, the number changes.=C2=A0=
 I think 15 is black.=C2=A0 Gray is something else, maybe 10.=C2=A0 Spray o=
r brush on.=C2=A0 I've used Rustoleum as the touchup rattle spray cans are =
perfectly matched to the quart cans, and you can get it just about anywhere=
.=C2=A0 POR products might be a little more durable than Rustoleum.=C2=A0 I=
f the frame is bare metal, an epoxy primer is a good start, but with POR I =
"think" you can skip the primer.=C2=A0=C2=A0=20

Dave H.=C2=A0=C2=A0=20

=C2=A0=20

On 09/27/2023 5:55 PM PDT McKearn McKearn via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrot=
e:=20

=C2=A0=20

=C2=A0=20

Hi All.=20

=C2=A0 It's been a long time since I've painted a frame and I'm just wonder=
ing what the latest / greatest thing to use is for a race car frame ? It's =
already=C2=A0sand blasted if that matters..=20

=C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks.=C2=A0 P.J.=20

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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Jesse Prather has chassis an=
d cages powder coated for many of the cars that he has been building.&nbsp;=
 Looks great, but out of my budget.&nbsp; JoeB&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div><br></=
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                    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 09:21:45 PM EDT, Jac=
k Wheeler via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
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                <div><div id=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772"><div><div style=
=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px=
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        <div dir=3D"ltr">Now that powder coating has become readily availab=
le, and reasonably cheap, that would seem to be the way to go.&nbsp; I use =
it for all suspension parts, brackets, etc.&nbsp; Not sure most facilities =
could handle a frame!</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">Jack<br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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        </div><div id=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9yahoo_quoted_61=
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                <div id=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772yqtfd55141" class=3D"ydp=
291c3759yiv8676984772yqt8405025558"><div>
                    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 02:43:29 PM EDT, Ale=
xandre Camoletti &lt;ac@camoletti.ch&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9yiv03924=
05747"><div><div class=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747W=
ordSection1"><p class=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"color:#44546A;">Merci Jack&nbsp;! </span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"color:#44546A;">I was about to answer the same&nbsp;: Dupont (now Crom=
ax) Imron 700 is a 2k polyurethane paint, HD stuff very durable, made for i=
ndustrial use. I use it all the time for suspension parts, brackets, etc.</=
span></p><p class=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"color:#44546A;">But you need to spray it and know what =
you are doing, it is indeed very toxic, and cannot be brushed. </span></p><=
p class=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"color:#44546A;">Use the TDS and prime correctly (epoxy is a good =
recommendation, such as Cromax 840/845, but not too thick, again check the =
TDS and use correctly with the correct equipment).</span></p><p class=3D"yd=
p291c3759yiv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span style=3D"col=
or:#44546A;">Otherwise get it simply powdercoated (in a lighter coulour to =
easily see cracks, and leaks from components)</span></p><p class=3D"ydp291c=
3759yiv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#4=
4546A;">A presto&nbsp;!</span></p><p class=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772ydpe6=
2fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#44546A;">Alex Camoletti=
</span></p><p class=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"color:#44546A;"> &nbsp;</span></p><div><div style=3D"=
border-color:rgb(181, 196, 223) currentcolor currentcolor;border-style:soli=
d none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm;"><p class=
=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><b><span lan=
g=3D"FR" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">De&nbsp;:</span></b><span lang=3D"FR" =
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>De =
la part de</b> Jack Wheeler via Fot<br clear=3D"none"><b>Envoy=C3=A9&nbsp;:=
</b> jeudi 28 septembre 2023 14:48<br clear=3D"none"><b>=C3=80&nbsp;:</b> f=
ot@autox.team.net; Tony Drews<br clear=3D"none"><b>Objet&nbsp;:</b> Re: [Fo=
t] Frame paint</span></p></div></div><div id=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772ydp=
e62fd2f9yiv0392405747yqt36529" class=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9=
yiv0392405747yqt5581667776"><p class=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9=
yiv0392405747MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><div><div><p class=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676=
984772ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">=
I don't know if it is even still available, but years ago I painted the fra=
me on my race car with Dupont Imron.&nbsp; It was the most durable paint av=
ailable at the time, and my experience reflected that.&nbsp; The stuff is v=
ery toxic, so you must use a very good respirator.</span></p></div><div><p =
class=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp291c=
3759yiv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;">Jack</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772yd=
pe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &nbsp;<=
/span></p></div></div><div id=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392=
405747ydpc738254eyahoo_quoted_6378525148"><div><div><p class=3D"ydp291c3759=
yiv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10=
.0pt;color:#26282A;">On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 02:28:28 AM EDT, To=
ny Drews via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote: </span></p></div><div><p=
 class=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282A;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282A;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div><div i=
d=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747ydpc738254eyiv20266040=
46"><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282A;">Grey will show =
cracks better than black.&nbsp; POR is the first thing that came to mind fo=
r me, but it's been YEARS since I used it.</span></p><p><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;color:#26282A;">Cheers, Tony</span></p><div id=3D"ydp291c3759y=
iv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747ydpc738254eyiv2026604046yqtfd35055"><di=
v><p class=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282A;">On 9/27/2023 10:21 PM, DAVE H=
OGYE via Fot wrote:</span></p></div></div></div><div><div id=3D"ydp291c3759=
yiv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747ydpc738254eyiv2026604046yqtfd17211"><d=
iv><p class=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"color:#333333;">I'd suggest POR 15.&nbsp; Depending on the co=
lor, the number changes.&nbsp; I think 15 is black.&nbsp; Gray is something=
 else, maybe 10.&nbsp; Spray or brush on.&nbsp; I've used Rustoleum as the =
touchup rattle spray cans are perfectly matched to the quart cans, and you =
can get it just about anywhere.&nbsp; POR products might be a little more d=
urable than Rustoleum.&nbsp; If the frame is bare metal, an epoxy primer is=
 a good start, but with POR I "think" you can skip the primer.&nbsp;&nbsp; =
</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9yiv039=
2405747MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#333333;">Dave H.&nbsp;&nbsp; </span=
></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9yiv039240574=
7MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#333333;">&nbsp; </span></p></div><div><p =
class=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"color:#333333;">On 09/27/2023 5:55 PM PDT McKearn McKearn via Fot <=
a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=
=3D"_blank">&lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;</a> wrote: </span></p></div><div><di=
v><p class=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"color:#333333;">&nbsp; </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp29=
1c3759yiv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:=
#333333;">&nbsp; </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772=
ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#333333;">Hi All. <=
/span></p><div><p class=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772ydpe62fd2f9yiv0392405747=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#333333;">&nbsp; It's been a long time sinc=
e I've painted a frame and I'm just wondering what the latest / greatest th=
ing to use is for a race car frame ? It's already&nbsp;sand blasted if that=
 matters.. </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp291c3759yiv8676984772ydpe62=
fd2f9yiv0392405747MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#333333;">&nbsp; &nbsp;Th=
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