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Re: [Fot] Coolant conundrum

To: Anthony Parker <solarant@hotmail.com>, FOT Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Coolant conundrum
From: David Gott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2023 18:18:57 +0000 (UTC)
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Anthony,
Is this a wet liner triumph engine? =C2=A0It does sound like a cracked line=
r issue we had on one of our engines; no smoking gun and leak down pressuri=
zing cooling system didn=E2=80=99t show it; only when it got hot did the le=
ak show=E2=80=A6
Dave Gott


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Saturday, September 23, 2023, 1:53 PM, Anthony Parker via Fot <fot@autox=
.team.net> wrote:

 #yiv0505834595 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}I'm having cooling problem=
s.Need help being convinced that I have to do what I don't want to do.
Brand new short block, same old head, water pump, and radiator.

Over three trials, the engine will run fine and warm up with radiator hoses=
 and radiator warming properly. Then the hoses and radiator will cool and c=
oolant temp will spike to 230+. Radiator cold with sky high coolant temps.
Two more clues, hoses seem to pressurize very quickly and when I opened the=
 radiator cap this morning (after cooling all night) pressurized air and co=
olant shot everywhere.
No thermostat and I have confirmed three times that system is completely fu=
ll

Seems I have combustion gases getting into coolant and then bubbles eventua=
lly removing pump prime.
Don't know what else it could be.
Given the apparent direction of the leak, is there any use in trying some "=
stop leak" product?
Is it time to pull the head again to look for warping or gasket leak?
I suppose it could be a cracked cylinder, but this block has been checked b=
y two different trusted engine machinists.
Desperately trying to get to the RunOffs, Anthony._________________________=
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Anthony,<div><br></div><div>Is this a wet liner triumph engine? &nbsp;It do=
es sound like a cracked liner issue we had on one of our engines; no smokin=
g gun and leak down pressurizing cooling system didn=E2=80=99t show it; onl=
y when it got hot did the leak show=E2=80=A6</div><div><br></div><div>Dave =
Gott<br><br><br><div class=3D"yahoo-signature"><a href=3D"https://mail.onel=
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tg&amp;af_sub3=3D&amp;af_sub4=3D100000604&amp;af_sub5=3DEmailSignature__Sta=
tic_">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br></div><br><p class=3D"yahoo-qu=
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rgin-top: 0">On Saturday, September 23, 2023, 1:53 PM, Anthony Parker via F=
ot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"iosymail"><div=
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<span style=3D"margin:0px;" class=3D"yiv0505834595ContentPasted0">I'm havin=
g cooling problems.</span></div>
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Need help being convinced that I have to do what I don't want to do.</div>
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emFont, Roboto, sans-serif;margin:0px;color:rgb(36, 36, 36);background-colo=
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r:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D"yiv0505834595ContentPasted0 yiv0505834595el=
ementToProof">
Brand new short block, same old head, water pump, and radiator.<br>
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ted0">
</div>
<div style=3D"margin:0px;" class=3D"yiv0505834595ContentPasted0">Over three=
 trials, the engine will run fine and warm up with radiator hoses and radia=
tor warming properly. Then the hoses and radiator will cool and coolant tem=
p will spike to 230+. Radiator cold with sky high
 coolant temps.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin:0px;"><br class=3D"yiv0505834595ContentPas=
ted0">
</div>
<div style=3D"margin:0px;" class=3D"yiv0505834595ContentPasted0">Two more c=
lues, hoses seem to pressurize very quickly and when I opened the radiator =
cap this morning (after cooling all night) pressurized air and coolant shot=
 everywhere.</div>
<div style=3D"margin:0px;" class=3D"yiv0505834595ContentPasted0"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"margin:0px;" class=3D"yiv0505834595ContentPasted0"><span styl=
e=3D"display:inline !important;background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=
=3D"yiv0505834595ContentPasted1">No thermostat and I have confirmed three t=
imes that system is completely full</span><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin:0px;"><br class=3D"yiv0505834595ContentPas=
ted0">
</div>
<div style=3D"margin:0px;" class=3D"yiv0505834595ContentPasted0">Seems I ha=
ve combustion gases getting into coolant and then bubbles eventually removi=
ng pump prime.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"margin:0px;"><br class=3D"yiv0505834595ContentPas=
ted0">
</div>
Don't know what else it could be.</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:15px;font-family:UI Web -apple-system, BlinkMacSyst=
emFont, Roboto, sans-serif;margin:0px;color:rgb(36, 36, 36);background-colo=
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<br>
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r:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D"yiv0505834595ContentPasted0 yiv0505834595el=
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Given the apparent direction of the leak, is there any use in trying some "=
stop leak" product?</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:15px;font-family:UI Web -apple-system, BlinkMacSyst=
emFont, Roboto, sans-serif;margin:0px;color:rgb(36, 36, 36);background-colo=
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ementToProof">
<br>
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emFont, Roboto, sans-serif;margin:0px;color:rgb(36, 36, 36);background-colo=
r:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D"yiv0505834595ContentPasted0 yiv0505834595el=
ementToProof">
Is it time to pull the head again to look for warping or gasket leak?</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:15px;font-family:UI Web -apple-system, BlinkMacSyst=
emFont, Roboto, sans-serif;margin:0px;color:rgb(36, 36, 36);background-colo=
r:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D"yiv0505834595ContentPasted0 yiv0505834595el=
ementToProof">
<br>
</div>
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emFont, Roboto, sans-serif;margin:0px;color:rgb(36, 36, 36);background-colo=
r:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D"yiv0505834595ContentPasted0 yiv0505834595el=
ementToProof">
I suppose it could be a cracked cylinder, but this block has been checked b=
y two different trusted engine machinists.</div>
<div style=3D"font-size:15px;font-family:UI Web -apple-system, BlinkMacSyst=
emFont, Roboto, sans-serif;margin:0px;color:rgb(36, 36, 36);background-colo=
r:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D"yiv0505834595ContentPasted0 yiv0505834595el=
ementToProof">
<br>
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emFont, Roboto, sans-serif;margin:0px;color:rgb(36, 36, 36);background-colo=
r:rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=3D"yiv0505834595ContentPasted0 yiv0505834595el=
ementToProof">
Desperately trying to get to the RunOffs, Anthony.</div>
</div>
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