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Re: [Fot] TR sleeve protrusion .011

To: Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR sleeve protrusion .011
From: Philip Gott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 15 May 2023 06:19:31 -0400
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Thanks, Tony;<div>Changing the figure 8 gas=
ket thickness does sound like the easiest and most precise solution. &nbsp;S=
everal others have made the same suggestion to use brass or copper shim stoc=
k. I am leery of creep in brass or copper. What is the experience you all ha=
ve had? Does the creep take a set after a while or do you need to continuall=
y retorque the head? &nbsp;Is there a similar issue with solid copper head g=
askets?</div><div>The responses of everyone are much appreciated. Brendon an=
d Sean Alexander have offered some steel shim gaskets if he has the correct t=
hickness (.010=E2=80=9D). &nbsp;Just hoping I don=E2=80=99t need to reduce p=
iston compression height as well=E2=80=A6.</div><div>Regards,</div><div>Phil=
<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite">On May 14, 2023, at 7:16 PM, Tony Drews via Fot &lt;fot=
@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cit=
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    <p>You can also make some custom thickness replacements for the
      figure 8 gaskets to tune the protrusion.&nbsp; You can get brass shim
      stock from local hardware store or McMaster Carr and cut out with
      scissors / snips.&nbsp; I do separate O shapes, the siamesed cylinders=

      don't really need the gasket combined into a fig 8 one.</p>
    <p>Decking the block on the wet liner engine makes this more
      fiddly.&nbsp; You'll want to verify piston height at TDC too.</p>
    <p>Regards, Tony Drews<br>
    </p>
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 5/14/2023 2:07 PM, Steve Yott via
      Fot wrote:<br>
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      <div dir=3D"auto">You can machine the cylinder seat the required
        amount.&nbsp; I have a set of mandrels I made and do this frequently=

        on the lathe.</div>
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      <div dir=3D"auto">Steve Yott</div>
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        <div>-------- Original message --------</div>
        <div>From: Philip Gott via Fot <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" hr=
ef=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>&lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;</a> </div>
        <div>Date: 5/14/23 1:02 PM (GMT-06:00) </div>
        <div>To: Friends Of Triumph <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D=
"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>&lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;</a> </div>
        <div>Subject: [Fot] TR sleeve protrusion .011 </div>
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      Has anyone had experience with the cylinder sleeves protruding
      .011=E2=80=9D? The head has been staked per Kas=E2=80=99s book. <br>
      I am trying to build an engine quickly (avoiding machine shop
      delays) and have a block with billet crank and Chris Marx seal
      installed. It has been decked already. Also line bored and cam
      bearings and cam installed and timed. I want to know if I can
      assemble this with confidence or if I am asking for trouble?&nbsp; I
      don=E2=80=99t anticipate problems with oil or water sealing as I will u=
se
      Hylomar on a .020=E2=80=9D steel head gasket with the raised corrugati=
ng
      around the oil and water galleys.<br>
      The crank broke and a cylinder sleeve cracked in =E2=80=9Cold reliable=
=E2=80=9D
      during a test day.<br>
      Please advise.<br>
      Thanks and regards,<br>
      Phil Gott<br>
      <br>
      Sent from my iPhone<br>
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