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I don't see how anyone ever gets this right without a variety of gasket
thicknesses. I bought brass shim stock of various thicknesses and cut a
bunch of shims. The problem using snips is it is difficult to cut the
inner diameter. You can make nice cuts using a cheap circular cutter and
a drill press. They will tend to curl up, but you can work around that.
Photos are needed to explain the procedure. I think Tony used to have
photos at his site. If they aren't still there, I can try and locate them.
 - Larry
On 5/14/2023 4:24 PM, Tony Drews via Fot wrote:
>
> You can also make some custom thickness replacements for the figure 8
> gaskets to tune the protrusion. You can get brass shim stock from
> local hardware store or McMaster Carr and cut out with scissors /
> snips. I do separate O shapes, the siamesed cylinders don't really
> need the gasket combined into a fig 8 one.
>
> Decking the block on the wet liner engine makes this more fiddly.Â
> You'll want to verify piston height at TDC too.
>
> Regards, Tony Drews
>
> On 5/14/2023 2:07 PM, Steve Yott via Fot wrote:
>> You can machine the cylinder seat the required amount. I have a set
>> of mandrels I made and do this frequently on the lathe.
>>
>> Steve Yott
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve Yott
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>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Philip Gott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
>> Date: 5/14/23 1:02 PM (GMT-06:00)
>> To: Friends Of Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
>> Subject: [Fot] TR sleeve protrusion .011
>>
>> Has anyone had experience with the cylinder sleeves protruding .011â???
>> The head has been staked per Kasâ??s book.
>> I am trying to build an engine quickly (avoiding machine shop delays)
>> and have a block with billet crank and Chris Marx seal installed. It
>> has been decked already. Also line bored and cam bearings and cam
>> installed and timed. I want to know if I can assemble this with
>> confidence or if I am asking for trouble? I donâ??t anticipate
>> problems with oil or water sealing as I will use Hylomar on a .020â??
>> steel head gasket with the raised corrugating around the oil and
>> water galleys.
>> The crank broke and a cylinder sleeve cracked in â??old reliableâ??
>> during a test day.
>> Please advise.
>> Thanks and regards,
>> Phil Gott
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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I don't see how anyone ever gets this right without a variety of
gasket thicknesses. I bought brass shim stock of various thicknesses
and cut a bunch of shims. The problem using snips is it is difficult
to cut the inner diameter. You can make nice cuts using a cheap
circular cutter and a drill press. They will tend to curl up, but
you can work around that. Photos are needed to explain the
procedure. I think Tony used to have photos at his site. If they
aren't still there, I can try and locate them.<br>
 - Larry<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/14/2023 4:24 PM, Tony Drews via
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<p>You can also make some custom thickness replacements for the
figure 8 gaskets to tune the protrusion. You can get brass shim
stock from local hardware store or McMaster Carr and cut out
with scissors / snips. I do separate O shapes, the siamesed
cylinders don't really need the gasket combined into a fig 8
one.</p>
<p>Decking the block on the wet liner engine makes this more
fiddly. You'll want to verify piston height at TDC too.</p>
<p>Regards, Tony Drews<br>
</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/14/2023 2:07 PM, Steve Yott via
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<div dir="auto">You can machine the cylinder seat the required
amount. I have a set of mandrels I made and do this
frequently on the lathe.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Steve Yott</div>
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<div>Subject: [Fot] TR sleeve protrusion .011 </div>
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Has anyone had experience with the cylinder sleeves protruding
.011â??? The head has been staked per Kasâ??s book. <br>
I am trying to build an engine quickly (avoiding machine shop
delays) and have a block with billet crank and Chris Marx seal
installed. It has been decked already. Also line bored and cam
bearings and cam installed and timed. I want to know if I can
assemble this with confidence or if I am asking for trouble? I
donâ??t anticipate problems with oil or water sealing as I will
use Hylomar on a .020â?? steel head gasket with the raised
corrugating around the oil and water galleys.<br>
The crank broke and a cylinder sleeve cracked in â??old reliableâ??
during a test day.<br>
Please advise.<br>
Thanks and regards,<br>
Phil Gott<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
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