--===============4839009500503854645==
boundary="----=_Part_254590_952505660.1674391564065"
------=_Part_254590_952505660.1674391564065
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi FOT,
I used Larry Young=E2=80=99s site to learn a lot about cams and their relat=
ive effects on engine performance with some crude engine modeling software,=
in the quest to pick the right cam for my wants, building a strong mid ran=
ge engine, trying not to spin over 6,000 if I can help it with a stock base=
d crank. =C2=A0 =C2=A0Does anyone happen to have the specs on the Gillander=
=E2=80=99s #24 they could share? =C2=A0Just curious. =C2=A0Maybe it=E2=80=
=99s at the pointy end of the list below?
Rick McCurdy, here=E2=80=99s the cam reference list Larry put together, bel=
ow, and I=E2=80=99d sure be curious what Rick Parent=E2=80=99s software wou=
ld say I should have done!!! =C2=A0
Triumph Cams=C2=A0
=20
| =20
| =20
| =20
| | |
|
|
| =20
| | =20
Triumph Cams
=20
| |
|
|
=20
Dave Gott
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
On Saturday, January 21, 2023, 2:11 PM, Rick Parent via Fot <fot@autox.team=
.net> wrote:
Hi Henry
(DISCLAIMER) I am not an expert on this subject but what I do know I am gla=
d to share.
I know this subject can be controversial just because there are so many opp=
osing opinions. Let me start by saying I have no interest in fighting over =
whose opinion is right or wrong mainly because an opinion is not science or=
fact based quantifiable data. I am however more than willing to have a fru=
itful conversation that helps every one increase their knowledge base on th=
is subject.
Camshafts along with many (too many, haha) other high performance or racing=
items have been my passion for over 45 years and I have spent countless do=
llars and hours investigating this so called black art called cam design. I=
have asked some of the best cam designers in the world about what I need i=
n any particular motor and reached a point where some started saying " I do=
n't know the answer to that question", others blew me off by saying that wo=
n't work with no explanation why. When I was right around 40 years old I to=
ok on the attitude screw it, I'm going to do it anyhow. I can truthfully sa=
y most things I tried in fact did not work but some things actually did.=C2=
=A0
Moving forward there are 2 quotes I am reminded of that I think are applica=
ble here, the first is; " It's easier to convince someone of a lie that con=
vince them they have been lied to" and the second is "Everything in the uni=
verse can be explained with math".
In a general sense Ed Iskendarion, Harvey Crane, Dema Elgin and many others=
were way ahead of their time and did their best to apply some math for smo=
othing purposes and trial and error to build cams that would make power and=
not beat the valve train to death. Over the years cam companies have amass=
ed thousands of lobe profiles and that combined with a ton of dyno run data=
from engine builders is how they make their recommendations for todays cus=
tomers so the question is can they get you close? I think so depending on w=
hat engine you are working with, Chevy's and Fords, you have a really good =
chance. Other off brand or non mainstream engines are basically what someon=
e has developed on their own through trial and error like Kas. As a side no=
te, many NASCAR engine shops have 55 gallon barrels full of trial and error=
camshafts headed to the scrap yard.
The worlds best cam designer to date in my opinion would be a guy you never=
heard of named Dick Jones. Dick had developed the math by proving it over =
decades of testing and has 4 Indy wins to his credit among many other wins =
in racing. Dicks son Rick Jones has take the math a step further by refinin=
g it and building a software program that will make you look like a hero ri=
ght out of the box.
Today, there is a way to have the perfect camshaft for your specific combin=
ation of parts. The perfect cam may or may not make more max hp than what y=
ou have currently depending on how good your combination of parts are. My m=
otors have made a couple more hp on the top but tons more on the bottom and=
mid range which is why I have been accused of cheating, the cars really ac=
celerate of the corners which is how you win races.
SUPPLY AND DEMAND=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
In simple terms, a combination of engine parts is the demand side and the c=
amshaft acts as the supply side. X engine specs demand X supply to make X H=
P at X RPM's, the cam design software looks at these parameters and mathema=
tically generates a profile providing the supply the your combination of pa=
rts demand. The specifics are a little hard to get your head around and tha=
t's why I offered to help with cam designs.
Most race engine camshafts are too large in my experience, that's why the T=
Q range is so tight or small (peaky). Enzo once said, HP sells cars and TQ =
wins races. Example - ideally we want a really wide TQ band say 4500-8000 f=
or example. If the engine makes peak HP at say 7500rpm and still is making =
power at 8000 your combo of parts are good. If the motor makes peak HP at 7=
500 and drops off a cliff at 7600 your parts are not capable of getting to =
8000, its not the camshafts fault generally speaking.
You can get the software here and its stupid cheap at the moment.=C2=A0http=
s://induction-logic.com/=C2=A0
I thinks that's enough to get the ball rolling don't you, haha.
Questions / comments??
Rick Parent
"Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequence=
s"
=20
On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 05:10:09 AM MST, yellow04 via Fot <fot=
@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
Rick,
Needing to beat the guys at the pointy end of the pack is what racing is=20
all about, right?
If your engine has the billet bottom end you describe, you can safely=20
run pretty much any cam you desire. Plenty of options out there, from=20
mild to wild. You are going to get a bunch of opinions out of this=20
thread!
First data point for you, the majority of the front running 4 cylinder=20
TR's in the east run the old Gillanders #24. It's a beast, makes power=20
up to and beyond 7 grand. You let the revs drop below 4 grand and it is=20
game over for that lap! I can tell you multiple Kastner Cup winners had=20
that cam in their car when they took home the Cup.
Henry
Rick McCurdy wrote:
>=20
> On another subject (and because I haven=E2=80=99t figured out how to do a
> =E2=80=98dry=E2=80=99 post), my motor got a bit =E2=80=98fried=E2=80=99 a=
t the K Cup in
> Pittsburgh last summer. In short, I=E2=80=99m seeking advice on a good, h=
igh
> quality camshaft for a TR4 motor. Billet crank, Carillo rods, forged
> pistons, etc.
>=20
> Any suggestions? I=E2=80=99m not an engineer, just a musician, and I don=
=E2=80=99t
> need to beat Henry Frye! (Well, not right away=E2=80=A6=F0=9F=98=81)
>=20
> Thanks,
_______________________________________________
fot@autox.team.net
http://www.fot-racing.com
Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot
tt.net
_______________________________________________
fot@autox.team.net
http://www.fot-racing.com
Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot
hoo.com
------=_Part_254590_952505660.1674391564065
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<html xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"; xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microso=
ft-com:vml" xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"><head><!--[=
if gte mso 9]><xml><o:OfficeDocumentSettings><o:AllowPNG/><o:PixelsPerInch>=
96</o:PixelsPerInch></o:OfficeDocumentSettings></xml><![endif]--></head><bo=
dy>
Hi FOT,<div><br></div><div>I used Larry Young=E2=80=99s site to learn a lot=
about cams and their relative effects on engine performance with some crud=
e engine modeling software, in the quest to pick the right cam for my wants=
, building a strong mid range engine, trying not to spin over 6,000 if I ca=
n help it with a stock based crank. Does anyone happen to have=
the specs on the Gillander=E2=80=99s #24 they could share? Just curi=
ous. Maybe it=E2=80=99s at the pointy end of the list below?</div><di=
v><br></div><div>Rick McCurdy, here=E2=80=99s the cam reference list Larry =
put together, below, and I=E2=80=99d sure be curious what Rick Parent=E2=80=
=99s software would say I should have done!!! </div><div><br></div><d=
iv><a href=3D"https://www.tildentechnologies.com/Cams/TriumphCams.html"; tar=
get=3D"_blank" class=3D"enhancr2_B610E089-AE3E-4B7D-8313-E7FFEE78E531">Triu=
mph Cams</a> </div><div><br></div><div><br><div><br></div><div id=3D"e=
nhancr2_B610E089-AE3E-4B7D-8313-E7FFEE78E531" class=3D"yahoo-link-enhancr-c=
ard yahoo-link-enhancr-cardSize-medium yahoo-link-enhancr-cardType-yenhancr=
yahoo-link-enhancr-cardCategory-article ymail-preserve-class ymail-preser=
ve-style" style=3D"max-width:400px;font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica,=
Arial, sans-serif;" contenteditable=3D"false" data-url=3D"https://www.tild=
entechnologies.com/Cams/TriumphCams.html" data-type=3D"LINK_ENHANCR_ATTACHM=
ENT_TYPE_INLINE" data-category=3D"article" data-embed-url=3D"" data-size=3D=
"medium"> <a href=3D"https://www.tildentechnologies.com/Cams/TriumphCam=
s.html" style=3D"text-decoration:none !important; color: #000 !important;" =
class=3D"yahoo-enhancr-cardlink" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer"> =
<table class=3D"card-wrapper yahoo-ignore-table" cellpadding=3D"0" cell=
spacing=3D"0" border=3D"0" style=3D"max-width:400px;"> <tbody><=
tr> <td width=3D"400"> <table class=3D"card yah=
oo-ignore-table" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" border=3D"0" width=3D"=
100%" style=3D"max-width:400px;"> <tbody><tr> =
<td class=3D"card-primary-image-cell" style=3D"background:#0=
00 url('https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/tRLHtzicjBSTx4D8sXbfTg--~A/Zmk9Zm=
lsbDt3PTQwMDtoPTIwMDthcHBpZD1pZXh0cmFjdA--/https://www.tildentechnologies.c=
om/images/Force.gif.cf.jpg') no-repeat center center;background-size:cover;=
height:200px;position:relative;" background=3D"https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/re=
s/1.2/tRLHtzicjBSTx4D8sXbfTg--~A/Zmk9ZmlsbDt3PTQwMDtoPTIwMDthcHBpZD1pZXh0cm=
FjdA--/https://www.tildentechnologies.com/images/Force.gif.cf.jpg"; bgcolor=
=3D"#000000" valign=3D"top"> <!--[if gte mso 9=
]><v:rect fill=3D"true" stroke=3D"false" style=3D"width:400px;height:218px;=
position:absolute;top:0;left:0;"><v:fill type=3D"frame" color=3D"#000000" s=
rc=3D"https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/=
tRLHtzicjBSTx4D8sXbfTg--~A/Zmk9ZmlsbDt3PTQwMDtoPTIwMDthcHBpZD1pZXh0cmF=
jdA--/https://www.tildentechnologies.com/images/Fo=
rce.gif.cf.jpg"/></v:rect><![endif]--> =
<table class=3D"yahoo-ignore-table" cellpadding=3D"0" cellspacing=
=3D"0" border=3D"0" valign=3D"top" style=3D"width:100%;"> =
<tbody><tr> <td style=3D=
"background:transparent url('https://s.yimg.com/nq/storm/assets/enhancrV2/1=
2/overlay-tile.png') repeat left top;height:200px;" background=3D"https://s=
.yimg.com/nq/storm/assets/enhancrV2/12/overlay-tile.png" bgcolor=3D"transpa=
rent" valign=3D"top"> <!--[if gte =
mso 9]><v:rect fill=3D"true" stroke=3D"false" style=3D"width:400px;height:2=
18px;position:absolute;top:-18px;left:0;"><v:fill type=3D"pattern" color=3D=
"#000000" src=3D"https://s.yimg.com/nq/storm/assets/enhancrV2/12/overlay-ti=
le.png"/><v:textbox inset=3D"0,0,20px,0"><![endif]--> =
<table class=3D"yahoo-ignore-table" height=3D"185" styl=
e=3D"width:100%;height:185px;min-height:185px;"> =
<tbody><tr> =
<td class=3D"card-richInfo2" style=3D"text-align:left;text-align:left;pa=
dding:15px 0 0 15px;vertical-align:top;"> =
</td> =
<td class=3D"card-actions" s=
tyle=3D"text-align:right;padding:15px 15px 0 0;vertical-align:top;"> =
<div class=3D"card-share-cont=
ainer"></div> </td> =
</tr> =
</tbody></table> <!--[if g=
te mso 9]></v:textbox></v:rect><![endif]--> =
</td> </tr> =
</tbody></table> </td> </tr> =
<tr> <td> =
<table class=3D"card-info yahoo-ignore-table" align=3D"center" cellp=
adding=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" border=3D"0" style=3D"background:#fff;positi=
on:relative;z-index:2;width:95%;max-width:380px;border:1px solid #e0e4e9;bo=
rder-bottom:3px solid #000000;margin-top:-40px;margin-left:auto;margin-righ=
t:auto;"> <tbody><tr> =
<td style=3D"background-color:=
#ffffff;padding:16px 0 16px 12px;vertical-align:top;"> =
</td> =
<td style=3D"vertical-align:middle;padding:16px 12=
px;width:99%;"> <h2 class=3D"card-t=
itle" style=3D"font-size: 16px; line-height:19px; margin:0 0 4px 0;font-fam=
ily:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Triumph Cams</h2> =
=
<p class=3D"card-description" style=3D"font-size:11px;line-height:15px;co=
lor:#999;"></p> </td> =
<td style=3D"text-align:right;padding:16px 12px 16px 0;=
"> =
</td> </tr> =
</tbody></table> </td> </tr> =
</tbody></table> </td> </tr> =
</tbody></table> </a> </div><div><br></div><br></div><div>Dave Gott</=
div><div><br><br><br><a href=3D"https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/?.src=3DiOS=
">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br><br><p class=3D"yahoo-quoted-begin=
" style=3D"font-size: 15px; color: #715FFA; padding-top: 15px; margin-top: =
0">On Saturday, January 21, 2023, 2:11 PM, Rick Parent via Fot <fot@auto=
x.team.net> wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"iosymail"><div id=3D"yiv67685=
43116"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, san=
s-serif;font-size:16px;" class=3D"yiv6768543116ydpf02007b1yahoo-style-wrap"=
><div style=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helv=
etica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">Hi Henry</div><div dir=3D"ltr" st=
yle=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:1=
6px;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvet=
ica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">(DISCLAIMER) I am n=
ot an expert on this subject but what I do know I am glad to share.</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-=
serif;font-size:16px;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"f=
ont-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">I =
know this subject can be controversial just because there are so many oppos=
ing opinions. Let me start by saying I have no interest in fighting over wh=
ose opinion is right or wrong mainly because an opinion is not science or f=
act based quantifiable data. I am however more than willing to have a fruit=
ful conversation that helps every one increase their knowledge base on this=
subject.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvet=
ica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;=
font-size:16px;">Camshafts along with many (too many, haha) other high perf=
ormance or racing items have been my passion for over 45 years and I have s=
pent countless dollars and hours investigating this so called black art cal=
led cam design. I have asked some of the best cam designers in the world ab=
out what I need in any particular motor and reached a point where some star=
ted saying " I don't know the answer to that question", others blew me off =
by saying that won't work with no explanation why. When I was right around =
40 years old I took on the attitude screw it, I'm going to do it anyhow. I =
can truthfully say most things I tried in fact did not work but some things=
actually did. </div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica N=
eue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><br clear=3D"none"></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sa=
ns-serif;font-size:16px;">Moving forward there are 2 quotes I am reminded o=
f that I think are applicable here, the first is; " It's easier to convince=
someone of a lie that convince them they have been lied to" and the second=
is "Everything in the universe can be explained with math".</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;=
font-size:16px;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">In a gen=
eral sense Ed Iskendarion, Harvey Crane, Dema Elgin and many others were wa=
y ahead of their time and did their best to apply some math for smoothing p=
urposes and trial and error to build cams that would make power and not bea=
t the valve train to death. Over the years cam companies have amassed thous=
ands of lobe profiles and that combined with a ton of dyno run data from en=
gine builders is how they make their recommendations for todays customers s=
o the question is can they get you close? I think so depending on what engi=
ne you are working with, Chevy's and Fords, you have a really good chance. =
Other off brand or non mainstream engines are basically what someone has de=
veloped on their own through trial and error like Kas. As a side note, many=
NASCAR engine shops have 55 gallon barrels full of trial and error camshaf=
ts headed to the scrap yard.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Hel=
vetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"">The worlds best cam designer to date i=
n my opinion would be a guy you never heard of named Dick Jones. Dick had d=
eveloped the math by proving it over decades of testing and has 4 Indy wins=
to his credit among many other wins in racing. Dicks son Rick Jones has ta=
ke the math a step further by refining it and building a software program t=
hat will make you look like a hero right out of the box.</div><div dir=3D"l=
tr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-=
size:16px;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:=
Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">Today, there =
is a way to have the perfect camshaft for your specific combination of part=
s. The perfect cam may or may not make more max hp than what you have curre=
ntly depending on how good your combination of parts are. My motors have ma=
de a couple more hp on the top but tons more on the bottom and mid range wh=
ich is why I have been accused of cheating, the cars really accelerate of t=
he corners which is how you win races.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-=
family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, He=
lvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">SUPPLY AND DEMAND &n=
bsp; </div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helve=
tica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;=
font-size:16px;">In simple terms, a combination of engine parts is the dema=
nd side and the camshaft acts as the supply side. X engine specs demand X s=
upply to make X HP at X RPM's, the cam design software looks at these param=
eters and mathematically generates a profile providing the supply the your =
combination of parts demand. The specifics are a little hard to get your he=
ad around and that's why I offered to help with cam designs.</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;=
font-size:16px;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">Most rac=
e engine camshafts are too large in my experience, that's why the TQ range =
is so tight or small (peaky). Enzo once said, HP sells cars and TQ wins rac=
es. Example - ideally we want a really wide TQ band say 4500-8000 for examp=
le. If the engine makes peak HP at say 7500rpm and still is making power at=
8000 your combo of parts are good. If the motor makes peak HP at 7500 and =
drops off a cliff at 7600 your parts are not capable of getting to 8000, it=
s not the camshafts fault generally speaking.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=
=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px=
;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica=
Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">You can get the softwa=
re here and its stupid cheap at the moment. <a rel=3D"nofollow noopene=
r noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://induction-lo=
gic.com/">https://induction-logic.com/</a> </div><div dir=3D"ltr" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16p=
x;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetic=
a Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">I thinks that's enoug=
h to get the ball rolling don't you, haha.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"f=
ont-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><b=
r clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue=
, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">Questions / comments??</div=
><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sa=
ns-serif;font-size:16px;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=
=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px=
;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helve=
tica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div styl=
e=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16p=
x;" class=3D"yiv6768543116ydpf02007b1signature"><div style=3D"font-family:H=
elvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div dir=3D"ltr">Rick Parent</=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">"<i>Doing th=
e right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequences</i>"</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div></div></div></div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-se=
rif;font-size:16px;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"font-family:Hel=
vetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><br clear=3D"non=
e"></div>
=20
</div><div id=3D"yiv6768543116yahoo_quoted_4690198697" class=3D"yiv=
6768543116yahoo_quoted">
<div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, s=
ans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
=20
<div id=3D"yiv6768543116yqtfd26871" class=3D"yiv6768543116y=
qt8399007650"><div>
On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 05:10:09 AM MST, yello=
w04 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
</div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div id=3D"yiv6768543116yqtfd75=
986" class=3D"yiv6768543116yqt8399007650">Rick,<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none">Needing to beat the guys at the pointy end of the pack is what ra=
cing is <br clear=3D"none">all about, right?<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D=
"none">If your engine has the billet bottom end you describe, you can safel=
y <br clear=3D"none">run pretty much any cam you desire. Plenty of options =
out there, from <br clear=3D"none">mild to wild. You are going to get a bun=
ch of opinions out of this <br clear=3D"none">thread!<br clear=3D"none"><br=
clear=3D"none">First data point for you, the majority of the front running=
4 cylinder <br clear=3D"none">TR's in the east run the old Gillanders #24.=
It's a beast, makes power <br clear=3D"none">up to and beyond 7 grand. You=
let the revs drop below 4 grand and it is <br clear=3D"none">game over for=
that lap! I can tell you multiple Kastner Cup winners had <br clear=3D"non=
e">that cam in their car when they took home the Cup.<br clear=3D"none"><br=
clear=3D"none">Henry<br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv6768543116yqtfd=
04517" class=3D"yiv6768543116yqt9057081774"><div id=3D"yiv6768543116yqtfd78=
005" class=3D"yiv6768543116yqt8399007650"><br clear=3D"none">Rick McCurdy w=
rote:<br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"none">> On another subject (an=
d because I haven=E2=80=99t figured out how to do a<br clear=3D"none">> =
=E2=80=98dry=E2=80=99 post), my motor got a bit =E2=80=98fried=E2=80=99 at =
the K Cup in<br clear=3D"none">> Pittsburgh last summer. In short, I=E2=
=80=99m seeking advice on a good, high<br clear=3D"none">> quality camsh=
aft for a TR4 motor. Billet crank, Carillo rods, forged<br clear=3D"none">&=
gt; pistons, etc.<br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"none">> Any sugges=
tions? I=E2=80=99m not an engineer, just a musician, and I don=E2=80=99t<br=
clear=3D"none">> need to beat Henry Frye! (Well, not right away=E2=80=
=A6=F0=9F=98=81)<br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"none">> Thanks,<br =
clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">_________________________________________=
______<br clear=3D"none"><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"r=
ect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto=
:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"=
none"><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_bla=
nk" href=3D"http://www.fot-racing.com";>http://www.fot-racing.com</a><br cle=
ar=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Donate: <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferr=
er" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.htm=
l">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br clear=3D"none">Archive: <a rel=3D=
"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"htt=
p://autox.team.net/archive ">http://autox.team.net/archive </a><a rel=3D"no=
follow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http:/=
/www.team.net/pipermail/fot">http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot</a><br clear=
=3D"none">Unsubscribe/Manage: </div><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer"=
shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/opt=
ions/fot/rick.parent@att.net">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ric=
k.parent@att.net</a><div id=3D"yiv6768543116yqtfd76365" class=3D"yiv6768543=
116yqt8399007650"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">=
</div></div></div></div><div id=3D"yiv6768543116yqtfd43703" class=3D"yiv676=
8543116yqt8399007650">
</div></div><div id=3D"yiv6768543116yqtfd01925" class=3D"yiv676=
8543116yqt8399007650">
</div></div></div></div><div class=3D"yqt8399007650" id=3D"yqtfd124=
85">_______________________________________________<br clear=3D"none"><a sh=
ape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:fot@autox=
.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><a s=
hape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://www.fot-racing.com"; target=3D"_blank">http://w=
ww.fot-racing.com</a><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Donate: <a shape=
=3D"rect" href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html"; target=3D"_blank">http:/=
/www.team.net/donate.html</a><br clear=3D"none">Archive: <a shape=3D"rect" =
href=3D"http://autox.team.net/archive " target=3D"_blank">http://autox.team=
.net/archive </a><a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/fo=
t" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot</a><br clear=3D"none=
">Unsubscribe/Manage: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailm=
an/options/fot/triumphsix@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.team.ne=
t/mailman/options/fot/triumphsix@yahoo.com</a><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></=
div>
</body></html>
------=_Part_254590_952505660.1674391564065--
--===============4839009500503854645==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
_______________________________________________
fot@autox.team.net
http://www.fot-racing.com
Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot
--===============4839009500503854645==--
|
![https://www.tildentechnologies.com/images/Force.gif.cf.jpg"](https://www.tildentechnologies.com/images/Force.gif.cf.jpg"){kind=link}