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Subject: Re: [Fot] Close ratio gears
From: Jason Sukey via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2023 12:02:12 -0500
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Amici,
        I'm working with a gear manufacturer on another option for close
ratio gear sets for the big TR gearbox.  Initial design is for 2nd/3rd/4th
to be close ratios (similar to what we are used to with the discontinued
close ratio set), but the 1st ratio will be stock.  I suspect few road
racing users are using 1st gear other than to get moving from the grid
(ultra close ratio dog box users excluded).

These will be  a "semi-helical" type gear, they won't be quiet like street
gears.

I don't have any hard numbers yet, the cost will certainly be a bit higher
than the $600 sets we are used to, but a fraction of the cost of converting
to a dog box.

If things work out, I'll have a sample set in my racecar to test this
summer.

I'll keep FOT posted.

Jason Sukey
JS Performance Motoring, LLC



On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 11:27 AM Bob Kramer Gmail via Fot <
fot@autox.team.net> wrote:

> FWIW when calculating demand, I have bought 5 sets over the years. I=E2=
=80=99ve
> sold I few racecars over the years and some has CR sets. The set in my TR=
4
> us the most abused set and us still going strong. It does talk back at
> times, but they seem to hold up well.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 17, 2023, at 9:37 PM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> I'm using one.
> Wouldn't mind having another one.  Should have bought one when they were
> available at $600 or what ever it was.
> It's difficult to understand the reasoning behind not letting a more
> modern and available option to be used.  Toyota, Miata, T5 or what ever.
> Had I known that to date, absolutely no tech inspector would ever even lo=
ok
> at or question my gear box or if I was using rack and pinion steering, I
> may have gone that route in the first place.  I don't think these items
> make the car or driver go much faster and spoil the competition.  Some ar=
e
> using these already anyhow.  I've heard the argument many times, that
> basically the original option with over-drive had 7 gears.  Why wouldn't
> any 5-speed be allowed.  Thegridsaregettingsmaller.com.  I like to add
> .com. to anything.  And, I'mnotsleepingverywellthesedays.com.  That sort
> of thing...com.   Gdamn$85sycrorings.com.  Hehehe.com.
> Dave H.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Amici,</div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I&#39;m =
working with a gear manufacturer on another option=C2=A0for close ratio gea=
r sets for the big TR gearbox.=C2=A0 Initial design is for 2nd/3rd/4th to b=
e close ratios (similar to what we are used to with the discontinued close =
ratio set), but the 1st ratio will be stock.=C2=A0 I suspect few road racin=
g users=C2=A0are using 1st gear other than to get moving from the grid (ult=
ra close ratio dog box users excluded).</div><div><br></div><div>These will=
 be=C2=A0 a &quot;semi-helical&quot; type gear, they won&#39;t be quiet lik=
e street gears.</div><div><br></div><div>I don&#39;t have any hard numbers =
yet, the cost will certainly be a bit higher than the $600 sets we are used=
 to, but a fraction of the cost of converting to a dog box.</div><div><br><=
/div><div>If things work out, I&#39;ll have a sample set in my racecar to t=
est this summer.</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;ll keep FOT posted.=C2=A0=
=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Jason Sukey</div><div>JS Performance Motori=
ng, LLC</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><=
div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 11:27 AM Bob K=
ramer Gmail via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.tea=
m.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:=
1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">FWIW when calculating demand, I have bought 5 sets o=
ver the years. I=E2=80=99ve sold I few racecars over the years and some has=
 CR sets. The set in my TR4 us the most abused set and us still going stron=
g. It does talk back at times, but they seem to hold up well.=C2=A0<br><br>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite">On Jan 17, 2023, at 9:37 PM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr=
">=EF=BB=BF

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  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">I&#39;m using one.<=
/span>
   <br>
  </div>
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">Wouldn&#39;t mind h=
aving another one.=C2=A0 Should have bought one when they were available at=
 $600 or what ever it was.=C2=A0=C2=A0</span>
  </div>
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(51,51,51)">
   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">It&#39;s difficult =
to understand the reasoning behind not letting a more modern and available =
option to be used.=C2=A0 Toyota, Miata, T5 or what ever.=C2=A0 Had I known =
that to date, absolutely no tech inspector would ever even look at or quest=
ion my gear box or if I was using rack and pinion steering, I may have gone=
 that route in the first place.=C2=A0 I don&#39;t think these items make th=
e car or driver go much faster and spoil the competition.=C2=A0 Some are us=
ing these already anyhow.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve heard the argument many times, tha=
t basically the original option with over-drive had 7 gears.=C2=A0 Why woul=
dn&#39;t any 5-speed be allowed.=C2=A0 Thegridsaregettingsmaller.com.=C2=A0=
 I like to add .com. to anything.=C2=A0 And, I&#39;<a href=3D"http://mnotsl=
eepingverywellthesedays.com" target=3D"_blank">mnotsleepingverywelltheseday=
s.com</a>.=C2=A0 That sort of thing...com.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Gdamn$<a href=3D"htt=
p://85sycrorings.com" target=3D"_blank">85sycrorings.com</a>.=C2=A0 Hehehe.=
com.</span>
  </div>
  <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;color=
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   <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt">Dave H.</span>
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