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To: 'yellow04' <yellow04@tr4racer.com>, "fot@autox.team.net" <fot@autox.team.net>, "kknight@klaenv.com" <kknight@klaenv.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Close ratio gears
From: Rick Parent via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2023 21:06:51 +0000 (UTC)
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Heck, I can make anything including gearsets and shafts but no one in their=
 right mind will do it because of the costs involved. Hewland Mk 9 gears se=
ts cost $325 each at this point, times four or five is not cheap. When a do=
g box brakes it's 2-4K for repairs and parts. A Jerico is fine if you need =
the extra weight and are prepared to lose some acceleration because of the =
added moment of inertia weight of the giant gears and shafts.
If someone can guarantee an order for say 30 sets I would be glad to do a q=
uote for the TR4/6 close ratio set up, I would also need a good set for eng=
ineering purposes.
I guess my point is if guys are whining about paying $85 each for steel syn=
chro's to fix the stock gearbox issues, I think they would come unglued hav=
ing to pony up for the close ratio gear sets. If there is a stock of these =
gears sets somewhere please tell me and I will buy them all at the current =
price. Realistically they should cost 3 times or more than what they sell f=
or today.
Rick Parent
"Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequence=
s"
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    On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 01:36:41 PM MST, Ken Knight via Fot <fo=
t@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
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 When that happens we can look for alternatives.=C2=A0 You can get a Jerico=
 4
speed racing transmission that will handle 4 times the power a TR box
(forever), and given gearset costs, it's not a bad investment.=C2=A0 You ca=
n even
get it with close to the ratios of TR CR box.=C2=A0 Not vintage but if we w=
ant to
race into the future gearboxes are going to be a major problem.=C2=A0 Alrea=
dy
lots of Toyota 5 speeds quietly on the grid.=C2=A0 The vast majority of par=
ts
made for racing today are far superior to what was available 60 years ago,
just look at the technological leaps in racing oil.=C2=A0 So as a sport we =
adapt
or stop racing.=C2=A0 Kas's moto was "Never be beaten by equipment".=C2=A0 =
The vast
majority of that equipment no longer exists, so when my last two TR
gearboxes are done it will be time for a change.

Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of yellow04 via Fot
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2023 8:23 AM
To: fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Close ratio gears

Interesting conversation, if the manufacturer of the close ratio gearsets i=
s
truly done and can't be convinced to make more, this could have pretty big
implications to a lot of racers here.

Does anybody know the ratios of the dogbox gearset?

Henry Frye

On 2023-01-16 15:34, Chris Marx via Fot wrote:
> Hi,
>=20
> Maybe Bastuck has a dogbox gearset on the shelf?
>=20
> Cheers
>=20
> Chris
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> Von: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> Im Auftrag von GREGORY THOMPSON=20
> via Fot
> Gesendet: Montag, 16. Januar 2023 16:05
> An: FOT Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
> Betreff: [Fot] Close ratio gears
>=20
> Hi All,
>=20
> Does anyone have a set of close ratio gears laying around for the
> TR4-6 gearbox they would be willing to part with?=C2=A0 They have been on=
=20
> backorder at all the suppliers and they keep moving their in-stock=20
> date further out.
>=20
> Thank you,
>=20
> Greg Thompson
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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydp687ce622yahoo-style-wrap" style=
=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px=
;"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Heck, I can make anything in=
cluding gearsets and shafts but no one in their right mind will do it becau=
se of the costs involved. Hewland Mk 9 gears sets cost $325 each at this po=
int, times four or five is not cheap. When a dog box brakes it's 2-4K for r=
epairs and parts. A Jerico is fine if you need the extra weight and are pre=
pared to lose some acceleration because of the added moment of inertia weig=
ht of the giant gears and shafts.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fals=
e"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">If someone can guarante=
e an order for say 30 sets I would be glad to do a quote for the TR4/6 clos=
e ratio set up, I would also need a good set for engineering purposes.</div=
><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-set=
dir=3D"false">I guess my point is if guys are whining about paying $85 each=
 for steel synchro's to fix the stock gearbox issues, I think they would co=
me unglued having to pony up for the close ratio gear sets. If there is a s=
tock of these gears sets somewhere please tell me and I will buy them all a=
t the current price. Realistically they should cost 3 times or more than wh=
at they sell for today.</div><div><br></div><div class=3D"ydp687ce622signat=
ure"><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;=
"><div dir=3D"ltr">Rick Parent</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">"<i>Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of con=
sequences</i>"</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div></div></div></div>
        <div><br></div><div><br></div>
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ans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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                <div>
                    On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 01:36:41 PM MST, Ken Kn=
ight via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div dir=3D"ltr">When that happens we can look for alt=
ernatives.&nbsp; You can get a Jerico 4<br clear=3D"none">speed racing tran=
smission that will handle 4 times the power a TR box<br clear=3D"none">(for=
ever), and given gearset costs, it's not a bad investment.&nbsp; You can ev=
en<br clear=3D"none">get it with close to the ratios of TR CR box.&nbsp; No=
t vintage but if we want to<br clear=3D"none">race into the future gearboxe=
s are going to be a major problem.&nbsp; Already<br clear=3D"none">lots of =
Toyota 5 speeds quietly on the grid.&nbsp;  The vast majority of parts<br c=
lear=3D"none">made for racing today are far superior to what was available =
60 years ago,<br clear=3D"none">just look at the technological leaps in rac=
ing oil.&nbsp; So as a sport we adapt<br clear=3D"none">or stop racing.&nbs=
p; Kas's moto was "Never be beaten by equipment".&nbsp;  The vast<br clear=
=3D"none">majority of that equipment no longer exists, so when my last two =
TR<br clear=3D"none">gearboxes are done it will be time for a change.<br cl=
ear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Ken<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">--=
---Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">From: Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@au=
tox.team.net">fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; On Behalf Of yellow04 via =
Fot<br clear=3D"none">Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2023 8:23 AM<br clear=3D"n=
one">To: <a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; href=3D"ma=
ilto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a><br clear=3D"none">Subject: =
Re: [Fot] Close ratio gears<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Interestin=
g conversation, if the manufacturer of the close ratio gearsets is<br clear=
=3D"none">truly done and can't be convinced to make more, this could have p=
retty big<br clear=3D"none">implications to a lot of racers here.<br clear=
=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Does anybody know the ratios of the dogbox gea=
rset?<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Henry Frye<br clear=3D"none"><br=
 clear=3D"none">On 2023-01-16 15:34, Chris Marx via Fot wrote:<br clear=3D"=
none">&gt; Hi,<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Maybe Bastuck=
 has a dogbox gearset on the shelf?<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"non=
e">&gt; Cheers<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Chris<br clea=
r=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Von: Fot &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" ymai=
lto=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"; href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.=
team.net">fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; Im Auftrag von GREGORY THOMPSO=
N <br clear=3D"none">&gt; via Fot<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Gesendet: Montag, =
16. Januar 2023 16:05<br clear=3D"none">&gt; An: FOT Triumph &lt;<a shape=
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am.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">&gt; Betreff: [Fot] Cl=
ose ratio gears<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Hi All,<br c=
lear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Does anyone have a set of close =
ratio gears laying around for the<br clear=3D"none">&gt; TR4-6 gearbox they=
 would be willing to part with?&nbsp; They have been on <br clear=3D"none">=
&gt; backorder at all the suppliers and they keep moving their in-stock <br=
 clear=3D"none">&gt; date further out.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"=
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