Re: [Fot] Doug Still Guides Me...

[Scott Janzen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>]

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It can be done in eastern Pa, last i checked.

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> On Mar 23, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Greg Blake via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote=
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> =EF=BB=BFEspecially if you want cam bearings in a TR6 block. Frustrating i=
ndeed.=20
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Mar 23, 2020, at 2:21 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wro=
te:
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>> =EF=BB=BF
>> I'm in a pretty big metro area in Austin and we have no local line boring=
 available.  Very frustrating.
>> =20
>> Bob Kramer
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>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 11:36 AM Brad Eells via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>=
 wrote:
>>> Interesting...I thought that would be a standard machine shop operation,=
 like resizing rods.
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>>> Apparently not...
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>>> Brad Eells
>>> Chino CA
>>> #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3
>>> #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4
>>> 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!
>>>=20
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>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 8:30 AM Bud Rolofson <levilevi@comcast.net> wro=
te:
>>>> Speaking of main caps I bought a block that turned out to not have the o=
riginal main caps. The caps on there did not match up with the block but I=E2=
=80=99ve been unable to find a machine shop that can machine them so there=E2=
=80=99s a round hole for the crank. The shop I had do my last block (and the=
y do 427 race engines among others and are well respected) told me that the r=
esult would be ovaled out holes (not round) which obviously is not good.
>>>> Certainly there=E2=80=99s a way to make this work but I haven=E2=80=99t=
 found it. I checked out another block shop but said they subcontract line-b=
oring to the the shop that said they couldn=E2=80=99t do it.=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Has anyone else encountered this problem? I=E2=80=99ve heard that steel=
 mains might be an answer but they=E2=80=99d still have to be line-bored to m=
ake them match. I hate to ship a block to get this done before I have reassu=
rances that they can make it work but does anyone know of that has successfu=
lly made main caps match the block? Given I=E2=80=99m spending a lot of time=
 these days staying home and catching up on car projects in the shop I figur=
ed it would be a good time to start building the next engine.
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>>>> Solutions or recommendations?
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>>>> Thanks
>>>> Bud
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>>>>> On Mar 22, 2020, at 9:33 PM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> w=
rote:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Amici,
>>>>>=20
>>>>> In typically rookie race engine builder mode with the block I selected=
 for rebuild, I pulled the main bearing caps (with my new fancy DeWalt 20V I=
mpact Wrench) and then couldn't remember which way around they went.=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> This led to visions of catastrophic failure somewhere down the road. Y=
et, I had several other blocks I could flip over and make a determination if=
 need be.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I was examining one of the caps when I discovered the faintest engravi=
ng on the surface of each cap:
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Eng #2 Front Fwd
>>>>> Eng #2 Mid Fwd
>>>>> Eng #2 Rr Fwd
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Doug Brown, my original owner/builder/driver extraordinaire had engrav=
ed each cap for me to make sure a mistake didn't occur. He rotated 3 engines=
 during each season in a quest for Divisional and National Championships.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> I guess that is the way a aeronautical/mechanical engineer and very su=
ccessful racer thinks.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Thanks again Doug!
>>>>>=20
>>>>> <IMG_8745.jpg>
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>=20
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Brad Eells
>>>>> Chino CA
>>>>> #72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitfire Mk3
>>>>> #35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4
>>>>> 1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!
>>>>>=20
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>>>> Bud Rolofson
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>>>> Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)
>>>>=20
>>>> 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)
>>>> 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
>>>> 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
>>>> 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">It can be done in eastern Pa, last i checke=
d.<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 23, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Greg Blake via Fot &lt;f=
ot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"=
text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">Especially if you want cam bearings in a TR6 blo=
ck. Frustrating indeed.&nbsp;<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 23, 2020, at 2:21 P=
M, Bob Kramer via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote>=
</div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr">I=
'm in a pretty big metro area in Austin and we have no local line boring ava=
ilable.&nbsp; Very frustrating.<div>&nbsp;<br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D=
"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Bob Kramer</div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 11:36 AM B=
rad Eells via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.n=
et</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Interesting...I thought that would be a standard machine sh=
op operation, like resizing rods.<div><br></div><div>Apparently not...</div>=
<div><br></div><div><br clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div style=3D"font-size:12=
.8px"><b><font color=3D"#000000">Brad Eells</font></b></div><div style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12.8px"><b><font color=3D"#000000">Chino CA</font></b></div><div sty=
le=3D"font-size:12.8px"><b><font color=3D"#000000">#72 FP 1969 Triumph Spitf=
ire Mk3</font></b></div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><b><font color=3D"#0=
00000">#35 DP 1962 Triumph TR4</font></b></div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8p=
x"><b><font color=3D"#000000">1965 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!</font></=
b><br></div></div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><b><font color=3D"#000000"=
><img src=3D"https://docs.google.com/uc?export=3Ddownload&amp;id=3D1HyYLxa1_=
Lz_Q0kLM3GRJryNDgfOwZyUc&amp;revid=3D0B9vVTDWaFCqFVmR6Q1FsMExZTHVLcHpja3BpSC=
9ucGcveHdJPQ" width=3D"96" height=3D"94" data-unique-identifier=3D""><br></f=
ont></b></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div=
></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 23, 20=
20 at 8:30 AM Bud Rolofson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:levilevi@comcast.net"; targe=
t=3D"_blank">levilevi@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Speaking of main caps I bought a block tha=
t turned out to not have the original main caps. The caps on there did not m=
atch up with the block but I=E2=80=99ve been unable to find a machine shop t=
hat can machine them so there=E2=80=99s a round hole for the crank. The shop=
 I had do my last block (and they do 427 race engines among others and are w=
ell respected) told me that the result would be ovaled out holes (not round)=
 which obviously is not good.<div>Certainly there=E2=80=99s a way to make th=
is work but I haven=E2=80=99t found it. I checked out another block shop but=
 said they subcontract line-boring to the the shop that said they couldn=E2=80=
=99t do it.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Has anyone else encountered this p=
roblem? I=E2=80=99ve heard that steel mains might be an answer but they=E2=80=
=99d still have to be line-bored to make them match. I hate to ship a block t=
o get this done before I have reassurances that they can make it work but do=
es anyone know of that has successfully made main caps match the block? Give=
n I=E2=80=99m spending a lot of time these days staying home and catching up=
 on car projects in the shop I figured it would be a good time to start buil=
ding the next engine.</div><div><br></div><div>Solutions or recommendations?=
</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div>Bud<br><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;=
<br><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Mar 22, 2020, at 9:33 PM, Brad Ee=
lls via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Amici,<div><br>=
</div><div>In typically rookie race engine builder mode with the block I sel=
ected for rebuild, I pulled the main bearing caps (with my new fancy DeWalt 2=
0V Impact Wrench) and then couldn't remember which way around they went.&nbs=
p;</div><div><br></div><div>This led to visions of catastrophic failure some=
where down the road. Yet, I had several other blocks I could flip over and m=
ake a determination if need be.</div><div><br></div><div>I was examining one=
 of the caps when I discovered the faintest engraving on the surface of each=
 cap:<br><br>Eng #2 Front Fwd</div><div>Eng #2 Mid Fwd</div><div>Eng #2 Rr Fw=
d</div><div><br></div><div>Doug Brown, my original owner/builder/driver extr=
aordinaire had engraved each cap for me to make sure a mistake didn't occur.=
 He rotated 3 engines during each season in a quest for Divisional and Natio=
nal Championships.</div><div><br></div><div>I guess that is the way a aerona=
utical/mechanical engineer and very successful&nbsp;racer thinks.</div><div>=
<br></div><div>Thanks again Doug!</div><div><br></div><div><div><span id=3D"=
gmail-m_-572788421225712968gmail-m_3153764041718801694cid:ii_k83wus460">&lt;=
IMG_8745.jpg&gt;</span><br></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br><=
/div><div><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><b><font>Br=
ad Eells</font></b></div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><b><font>Chino CA</=
font></b></div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><b><font>#72 FP 1969 Triumph S=
pitfire Mk3</font></b></div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><b><font>#35 DP 1=
962 Triumph TR4</font></b></div><div style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><b><font>196=
5 Triumph TR4A IRS...for the road!</font></b><br></div></div><div style=3D"f=
ont-size:12.8px"><b><font><img src=3D"https://docs.google.com/uc?export=3Ddo=
wnload&amp;id=3D1HyYLxa1_Lz_Q0kLM3GRJryNDgfOwZyUc&amp;revid=3D0B9vVTDWaFCqFV=
mR6Q1FsMExZTHVLcHpja3BpSC9ucGcveHdJPQ" width=3D"96" height=3D"94" data-uniqu=
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Bud Rolofson<br><br>Extreme Parts Racing&nbsp;(more than just a haircut)<br>=
<br>71TR6 CC57365 (Good&nbsp;6)<br>71 Spitfire MK IV Race&nbsp;Car #3<br>69 S=
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