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Subject: Re: [Fot] Main brg strap
From: fubog1 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 21:00:16 +0000 (UTC)
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That crack is pretty common with these, a Timesert or similar is the correc=
t repair.Re the center main cap strap, in my experience, these are engines =
are good up to 6.5kish, if it has a good crank & all is within spec and wel=
l balanced, and the loads are within reasonable limits.Beyond that the bend=
ing loads increase with RPM, due to the recip weight heavily loading that c=
enter main, and it gets overloaded.Once the cap deforms and/or fastener str=
etches, ie it's not round anymore and not supporting the bearings, the bad =
stuff starts to happen.You can tell if it getting overloaded, measure the c=
enter journal very carefully, we're into tenths now, and note where the wea=
r is, it's normally even all around the journal.When the load gets too heav=
y the wear will be mostly on the crankpin side of the journal; it will be v=
ery obvious.At that point a center strap will help for sure but the loads w=
ill still be there unless weight is reduced.This is why I try to focus on t=
orque vs high RPM HP with these engines.
Glen

On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 10:43 PM Nick Black via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wr=
ote:

Well it=E2=80=99s finally time to build a new motor... the crack at the rea=
r head bolt just won=E2=80=99t stop leakin anymore...so...
I=E2=80=99ve found the Chevy front strap to use on the center main, but wha=
t are you using for main bolts/studs for the additional length?
How about a complete set of fasteners for the mains? Does ARP make anything=
?

Motoring on in NORCAL
Nick

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<div><font size=3D"2">That crack is pretty common with these, a Timesert or=
 similar is the correct repair.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">Re the center main cap strap, in my experience, these=
 are engines are good up to 6.5kish, if it has a good crank &amp; all is wi=
thin spec and well balanced, and the loads are within reasonable limits.</f=
ont></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">Beyond that the bending loads increase with RPM, due =
to the recip weight heavily loading that center main, and it gets overloade=
d.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">Once the cap deforms and/or fastener stretches, ie it=
's not round anymore and not supporting the bearings, the bad stuff starts =
to happen.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">You can tell if it getting overloaded, measure the ce=
nter journal very carefully, we're into tenths now, and note where the wear=
 is, it's normally even all around the journal.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">When the load gets too heavy the wear will be mostly =
on the crankpin side of the journal; it will be very obvious.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">At that point a center strap will help for sure but t=
he loads will still be there unless weight is reduced.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"2">This is why I try to focus on torque vs high RPM HP w=
ith these engines.</font></div>

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<div><font size=3D"2">Glen</font></div>

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head bolt just won=E2=80=99t stop leakin anymore...so...<br clear=3D"none">
I=E2=80=99ve found the Chevy front strap to use on the center main, but wha=
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How about a complete set of fasteners for the mains? Does ARP make anything=
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Motoring on in NORCAL<br clear=3D"none">
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