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Re: Light trucks (OT)

To: Gary McCormick <svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com>,
Subject: Re: Light trucks (OT)
From: Mike Harper <roadsterdude1600@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 08:59:43 -0800 (PST)
To every thing
There is a season
And a time 
For every purpose, under heaven

(or something like that)

There is a need for 4WD's.  There is a need for
duelies. There is a need for smoke belching turbo
deisels.  And on and on.  Most people that I see
however in the BMW or Lexus SUV's would no more travel
down a dirt road, much less ford a stream, than they'd
fly.  The toughest duty seen by these $60,000 "trucks"
is bypassing the construction site on the way to the
mall.  

Drive what you NEED.  I'm a product of the depression
era, "take all you want, but eat all you take"
philosophy.  We are certainly a wasteful country...

Mike Harper
Charleston SC

(and, no, I do not NEED my roadsters, well not much
anyway...)

--- Gary McCormick
<svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com> wrote:
> Well, some accidents are unavoidable - and I am
> sincerely glad that your wife came out of
> it OK, and as for the rest of YOUR comments,
> statistics are on my side AND I haven't
> gotten personal on the subject. I don't remember
> saying that I drive a Ford Focus (I
> don't), I don't subscribe to "Brain" magazine, and
> just because I don't live with snow on
> a daily basis every winter doesn't mean I don't
> drive in it - I have and plenty (can you
> say "Sierra Nevada"?).
> 
> I'll grant that there are times and places where
> all-wheel drive is desirable, even
> necessary, and many people do have the need for a
> larger vehicle - but the glut of SUVs on
> the highways is ridiculous.
> 
> Gary
> 
> Eric Frisbee wrote:
> 
> > The Buick Regal we have is sizable, agile, AND has
> speed, yet my wife was
> > unable to avoid the accident, even though she saw
> it coming and accellerated
> > to avoid it.   Instead of being hit dead center of
> the car, she took the hit
> > on the rear quarter and spun 180 degrees.
> >
> > As to your other comments, well... they show your
> lack of intelligence on
> > the subject matter.   I think I will take my
> advise from my own trusted
> > sources, such as my father, who is an insurance
> investigator.   If I HAD to
> > take a hit, I'd much rather take that hit in my
> SUV instead of a car such as
> > your Ford Focus.
> > There is another reason for getting an SUV out
> here in Colorado... it's
> > called S N O W!   Perhaps you have read about it
> in your subscription to
> > "Brain" magazine there in sunny San Jose, CA... it
> makes roads slick and
> > driving treacherous.   Somedays, when it snows
> like 1 foot or more, it's
> > kinda fun to try and drive those little agile fast
> cars out here, while the
> > big tank Expedition just powers through the
> stuff...   funny stuff, perhaps
> > you should actually experience it for yourself
> once or twice in your life!
> >
> > And to the person who suggested I drive my
> Fairlady under an 18-wheeler??
> > I wouldn't say that again...   I have seen photos
> of such an endeavour and
> > they aren't pretty.   Keep those comments in the
> movies where they belong...
> > they aren't for real life and NO ONE should even
> attempt them!!!!!!!
> >
> > EF
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gary K. McCormick <gkmcc@netgate.net>
> > To: Eric Frisbee <efris@qwest.net>; Roadster List
> > <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:45 AM
> > Subject: Re: Light trucks (OT)
> >
> > > So the next idiot is in an 18-wheeler - what
> then? It's a spiraling
> > argument
> > > that just goes out of control. You can't
> guarantee your or your family's
> > safety
> > > by buying bigger and bigger vehicles. In fact,
> in the larger SUV's (and
> > the
> > > Expedition surely is one) you pretty much HAVE
> to take the hit, because a
> > rapid
> > > maneuver that would be safe and controllable in
> a smaller, more agile,
> > vehicle
> > > will put you on the edge of control, or on your
> roof, in an SUV.
> > >
> > > Gary McCormick
> > > San Jose, CA
> > >
> > > Eric Frisbee wrote:
> > >
> > > > Never thought I would ever say this, but...  
> Until the teeming idiots
> > out
> > > > there all learn how to drive, there's gonna be
> monster SUVs.   I
> > recently
> > > > bought a Ford Expedition for my expecting wife
> and 3 kids... (well, and
> > to
> > > > haul around my little fleet of roadsters!)   
> The reason I bought the
> > truck
> > > > was because my wife was driving our Buick
> Regal and was slammed into by
> > a
> > > > full size Ford van doing 45 mph with the
> driver looking at a map.
> > Sorry
> > > > if no one out there likes it...  that truck is
> gonna stay until we move
> > > > someplace without idiots (fat chance of
> finding THAT anywhere!)
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Dziuba, Larry <LarryD@pengrowth.com>
> > > > To: 'snyler' <marc@animalfirm.com>; Roadster
> List
> > > > <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 8:36 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: Light trucks (OT)
> > > >
> > > > > Good Morning Guys and Gals in Roadsterland. 
> I too am tired of people
> > > > > bitching about SUV's and any other large
> vehicle.  Get a life of your
> > own.
> > > > > I bought a Yukon when everyone else harped
> in "why don't you buy a
> > van?".
> > > > I
> > > > > buy what I want and my wife loves it too. 
> We have small kids and felt
> > it
> > > > > offered more protection for our kids in that
> it rides substantially
> > higher
> > > > > than a van.  Yeah, everyone knows that most
> SUV's, Trucks and millions
> > of
> > > > > full sized vans have a higher center of
> gravity.  I am not the best
> > driver
> > > > > in the world but I drive defensively and as
> a decent human being.
> > Also,
> > > > my
> > > > > truck does not have a 12" hitch sticking out
> the back either.  And if
> > it
> > > > > did, you also need to drive defensively and
> stay the hell back.
> > There, I
> > > > > feel much better and am ready for a new
> day!!!   Larry,
> > > > roadster-in-process
> > > > > and SUV.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: snyler [mailto:marc@animalfirm.com]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 7:25 AM
> > > > > To: Roadster List
> > > > > Subject: Light trucks (OT)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >      For the first time, over 50% of the new
> vehicles sold in the US
> > were
> > > > > light trucks as opposed to cars (Pickups,
> minivans, SUVs) Do over 50%
> > of
> > > > > the population really need a truck-based
> vehicle, or are some of us
> > being
> > > > > sold a bill of goods.  I see a lot of
> longbed-crew-cab-duallie super
> > duty
> > > > > 4x4 behemoths that have never seen a puddle,
> much less a load of
> > gravel.
> > > > > I guess they hold a lot of groceries.  I can
> get over 10 bags of
> > > > > groceries in the roadster when the top is
> up, and it's not going to
> > roll
> > > > > if I swerve to avoid that puddle.
> > > > >      Some folks need a big hauler/towing
> vehicle, but many, I suspect
> > are
> > > > > just pretending to be cowboys (and cowgirls)
> > > > >
> > > > > -Marc T.
> > > > > '70 1600
> > > > > '93 Escort wagon (all you really *need *for
> a daily driver, will carry
> 
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