Good points. Groups 1 and 2 will be full...I believe that will be 40 cars
per group. However a bit of patience is amply rewarded. A trip through the
pits will generally yield open track for a bit if yoiu get behind a conga
line. Also four 20 minute sessions are avail in the day. The afternoon
sessions get much smaller. By session 4 particularly on Sunday it is mostly
open track.
I recall at the Oct Sears event that the afternoon on Sunday in groups 3 and
4 (and sessions 3 and 4) was down around 15 cars.
Also you will go out as a passenger with your instructor in Group 4 and that
will show you the track at speed.
Of course for those with experience you can register for groups above 1 and
2.
Perry Kincy
pkincy@msn.com
>From: "Talley, Brooks" <brooks@frnk.com>
>To: "pkincy P KINCY" <pkincy@msn.com>,<ba-autox@autox.team.net>
>Subject: RE: Crows Landing :((((
>Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 21:24:52 -0700
>
>Can someone clarify what "full" means for a NASA HPDE? I've been to a
>bunch of SCCA "street schools" at thunderhill and found that they were
>about like driving on 101 in rush hour; maybe 50 cars at a time on a 2
>or 3 mile course (depending on configuration; even 50 cars on the full
>3.2 mile course is a bit much - ~340 feet per car, assuming equal
>distribution, which is never the case).
>
>I've been to a bunch of NCRC events at t-hill where there were no more
>than 15 cars on the 3.2 mile course, and that was a blast and I will
>keep going back for those events.
>
>Do they limit registration for HPDE so you actually get some open track,
>or is it more like the dreaded street schools where you spend the entire
>time trying to pass that goddam 1974 volvo that everyone's piled up
>behind, until your run group is over and you've made it from #35 behind
>the volvo to #17?
>
>Thanks
>-b
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pkincy P KINCY [mailto:pkincy@msn.com]
> > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 9:15 PM
> > To: ba-autox@autox.team.net
> > Subject: RE: Crows Landing :((((
> >
> >
> > www.nasaproracing.com And reservations are very necessary
> > for Sears Point.
> > It will be full!
> >
> >
> >
> > Perry Kincy
> > pkincy@msn.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Michael R. Clements" <mrclem@telocity.com>
> > >To: "'pkincy P KINCY'" <pkincy@msn.com>, <jesvilla@gte.net>,
> > ><ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> > >CC: <ellamt@pacbell.net>, <pettym@home.com>, <marci@jccomp.com>,
> > ><Oldbl6@cs.com>, <jerry37cp@aol.com>, <Jerry@moutons.org>,
> > ><Jan@knudsenracing.com>, <GMankeny@earthlink.net>,
> > <FrankCP36@cs.com>,
> > ><Dominique@levenberg.com>, <pnc1@earthlink.net>, <BGoldine@yahoo.com>
> > >Subject: RE: Crows Landing :((((
> > >Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 07:55:52 -0700
> > >
> > >Sounds like fun... what's the best place to get more info?
> > >(reservations needed? car prep needed? etc.)
> > >
> > >Thanks,
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net
> > > > [mailto:owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of pkincy P KINCY
> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 22:26
> > > > To: jesvilla@gte.net; ba-autox@autox.team.net
> > > > Cc: ellamt@pacbell.net; pettym@home.com; marci@jccomp.com;
> > > > Oldbl6@cs.com; jerry37cp@aol.com; Jerry@moutons.org;
> > > > Jan@knudsenracing.com; GMankeny@earthlink.net; FrankCP36@cs.com;
> > > > Dominique@levenberg.com; pnc1@earthlink.net; BGoldine@yahoo.com
> > > > Subject: Re: Crows Landing :((((
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sorry folks....NASA moves in mysterious and slow ways! Hopefully
> > > > they will be gone soon.
> > > >
> > > > An alternative with a more friendly NASA exists.....Sears
> > Point High
> > > > Performance Driving Event at Sears Point on Nov 9/10. If
> > undecided
> > > > about track events come on out and watch. Your car and a helmet
> > > > and $180 gets you
> > > > 80 minutes of track time with a free instructor with NASA.
> > > >
> > > > Groups 1 and 2 allow no or very limited passing (only 11 to 1
> > > > straight and only when waved by if at all). So no real worries
> > > > unless it is self induced.
> > > >
> > > > Groups 3 and 4 need to be worked up to and allow more
> > passing or in
> > > > some cases unlimited passing. If you are experienced you have
> > > > done it before and
> > > > know it.
> > > >
> > > > Saturday afternoon also is filled with race classes and the new
> > > > grandstand and Turn 7 are very spectator friendly. Also
> > after the
> > > > last race is a free
> > > > BBQ for anyone there.
> > > >
> > > > You can find Fred and Eric von Wagenen sitting around the
> > Mazda's.
> > > > Perry Kincy and David Morin around the Camaro's. Brett and Lynn
> > > > Egan around the
> > > > Baby Grand's. Hopefully Sherry will show up to give us all
> > > > moral support.
> > > > Creasy....Factory Five is calling your name! Jeff Glorioso
> > > > come on out and
> > > > show us the line. Hopefully Larry Stark and Dick Buchen
> > will show up.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Perry Kincy
> > > > pkincy@msn.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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