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Re: Gravel at Golden Gate Fields

To: ba-autox@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Gravel at Golden Gate Fields
From: Glenn Ellingson <geewiz@mac.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2002 10:35:16 -0700
On Monday, June 3, 2002, at 10:04 AM, Pat Kelly wrote:
>     I realize the search for the perfect surface leads us away from the 
> Bay
> Area. So what would you have us do, stage everything at Atwater? Would you
> be willing to travel to the eastern side of the Central Valley for run an
> autocross every Sunday?
> --Pat K

Not sure if that was a rhetorical question, Pat, or if you wanted other 
people to jump in, but.... NO!

:-)

No site is perfect but I think the attendance figures show I am not alone 
in preferring nearby sites to large/well-surfaced/"better" non-local sites.
  The gravel at GGF is a pain, as is the irregularity of the surface at GGF,
  as are scheduling problems at the coliseum, etc...... no site will ever 
be perfect, but I am quite happy that we have the sites we do.

In Florida we had the same issues; I assume most places do. It's hard to 
get everything you want in one site. In Tampa our choice was to schedule 
at the AFB (central location, wonderful huge concrete runways) and take a 
50-50 chance the military will cancel the event on short notice, or to 
schedule at the fairgrounds where the "lot" was a set of 40-foot-wide 
asphalt strips with grass in between them and the "paddock" was muddy 
grass, or to put events a couple of hours out of town. The SFR does better 
despite much more population density.

--Glenn Ellingson, miata pilot

> ----------
>> From: Joe <joe@bea.com>
>> To: ba-autox@autox.team.net
>> Subject: Gravel at Golden Gate Fields
>> Date: Mon, Jun 3, 2002, 9:25 AM
>>
>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> I just ran in an all-day autocross with the PCA at Golden Gate Fields
>> yesterday and it was very irritating, almost to the point that I would
>> skip events there. There is so much loose gravel all over the lot that
>> the first group must have bead-blasted their undercarriages to clean
>> a line. The 'line' was essentially point-to-point because with no 
>> traction
>> that's the shortest way around. Even in the afternoon, this was a
>> 'drive-a-stupid-line-as-fast-as-you-can' event because any
>> attempt to vary put you into the drifts of displaced marbles. There was
>> a typical thirty-paces slalom where the cleared 'line' was precisely
>> straight from one side of one cone to the other side of the next cone.
>>
>> Have we ever paid someone to sweep a lot? I would gladly chip in
>> for this, rather than be chipped away by the gravel.
>> Joe Weinstein

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