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Re: Checkerefd Flag Stickers/Trophies/ Or A Check

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Subject: Re: Checkerefd Flag Stickers/Trophies/ Or A Check
From: Sharon Levy <Sharon.Levy@eng.sun.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 10:59:46 -0700 (PDT)
In cycling (road racing) it is local tradition to give the district
champions (equivalent to our divisional champs, I guess) free entries
for the coming year.

Not cash, but gaurenteed entries for a year is pretty good incentive.

Sharon


>From: "Mike Lella" <lella@gotnet.net>
>To: <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: Checkerefd Flag Stickers/Trophies/ Or A Check
>Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 10:31:37 -0700
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>Pat,
> 
>With all the money flying around SFR, why could'nt we go with say, a $25.00
>check instead of the stickers? If you guys used to give out trophies
>instead, they certainly must have cost more than that. I'm trying to find a
>way to justify writing this off on my taxes and my accountant says I'd have
>to race for money (at least let there be incentive to win our entry fee
>back for pete's sake!!!) This way we could consider ourselves
>"professionals". 
>
>Mike
>----------
>> From: Pat Kelly <lollipop@ricochet.net>
>> To: Jerry Mouton <jerry@moutons.org>
>> Cc: Bay_Area_Autocross_List <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: Checkerefd Flag Stickers
>> Date: Thursday, June 01, 2000 9:48 AM
>> 
>> A little history:
>>     When we first started the program, we actually gave trophies at
>> events (not so many), but we got tired of hauling trophies, and when
>> folks didn't come to get them, then we'd have to chase the winners
>> down...far too much effort.
>>     At the end of the season, we not only give series' trophies (a nicely
>> mounted or framed photo of you in your car with appropriate finish
>> place), plus a fabric checkered flag (this has been dropped)
>>     After realizing event trophies ate up a lot of effort, and time, we
>> went to the checkered flag decals, the same as they did (or still do) for
>> roadracing. That's why you see the word "autocross" on the side. The road
>> racers were offended when we left that part blank. In fact, the road race
>> checkered flag decals say "road race" so there will be no confusion. :-)
>>     Yes, the intention is they be used like the old WWII fighter pilots
>> did for "kills," pasted on the side of your car.
>>     Unfortunately this batch is not really weather and sun resistant, so
>> keep them out of the sun as they fade over a period of time. The magnet
>> idea Jerry mentions is good, that way they can be put away until next
>> time and stay out of the weather except on competition days.
>>     --Pat Kelly
>>     your results and flag envelope stuffer person
>> 
>> Jerry Mouton wrote:
>> 
>> > Did you get a little AUTOCROSS checkered flag in your
>> > event results?  That's the SFR SCCA "First Place Trophy"
>> > First place in every class gets one.  I don't think this is
>> > documented anywhere -- anyway I never saw it.
>> > (If you don't put your zip on your card, yours could be lost!)
>> >
>> > When I first started, I threw them away, thinking
>> >  "heck, what a cheap dash plaque"
>> >
>> > (In "the old days", a metal or plastic sticky plate was given to
>> > every entrant at every event.  Really old days, these might be
>> > engraved brass -- very cool, and you could make up a neat
>> > collection on your dash, if you had room.  Old sports cars did)
>> >
>> > Then I found out they mean something.  Now I mark each with
>> > the date in indelible ink.
>> >
>> > Checkered flag etiquette:  I think it's cool to magnetize them and
>> > plaster them on the side of the car like on the side of old warplanes.
>> > Some people (esp. more prepared cars) stick them permanently
>> > in the windows.  Others feel this is overly braggy and "in your face".
>> > Most people don't know what they are all about. If you see them
>> > on a car, it means somebody who has won some events, and who has
>> > has an extroverted or defensive personality (your pick).  A win is
>> > a win, however.
>> >
>> > Jerry
>> >
>> > Jerry Mouton        mailto:jerry@moutons.org    Laissez les bons temps
>> > rouler!
>> 


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