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21. Re: [Tigers] Timing deviates - advice needed (score: 1): Author: "Thomas Witt" <atwittsend@verizon.net>; Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:19:02 -0700; Thanks Ron. A few minutes after I posted it dawned on me that there wouldn't be a crank gear that divided by 2 with the 45 tooth cam gear. That 45 teeth being based on the "8 degrees" I found on the; /html/tigers/2012-03/msg00201.html (15,585 bytes)
22. Re: [Tigers] Timing deviates - advice needed (score: 1): Author: Pointers <gpointer@telusplanet.net>; Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 14:29:39 -0600; It is a 302. Not sure the specific year, but early-mid 70's I suspect. Not sure if that changes the equation in terms of cam gear material used? 289 probably chain I _________________________________; /html/tigers/2012-03/msg00202.html (14,572 bytes)
23. Re: [Tigers] Timing deviates - advice needed (score: 1): Author: Larry Mayfield <drmayf@mayfco.com>; Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 17:24:18 -0700; forgot to remove the trailer.... bummer.. ** Gary, also tell them about the dizzy itself, especially the points breaker cam setup. And ask if anyone has a stock dizzy that you can borrow for trouble; /html/tigers/2012-03/msg00203.html (15,706 bytes)
24. Re: [Tigers] Timing deviates - advice needed (score: 1): Author: " Ron Fraser" <rfraser@bluefrog.com>; Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:53:57 -0400; Mayf Gary Many of us are staying on point and Yes, this is an interesting problem. Here is where our collective thoughts gravitate: 1 The elastomer part of the harmonic balancer could be slipping. Th; /html/tigers/2012-03/msg00205.html (14,335 bytes)
25. Re: [Tigers] Timing deviates - advice needed (score: 1): Author: "Gary Pointer" <gpointer@telusplanet.net>; Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:18:42 -0600; Once again, thanks all, for your responses. Per Mayf's suggestion, relaying here a few details: Model: Mallory Dual Point YC-449-HP Motor: 302 CID. Year unknown. Stock internals. Other: Moves smoothl; /html/tigers/2012-03/msg00206.html (13,277 bytes)
26. Re: [Tigers] Timing deviates - advice needed (score: 1): Author: Tod Brown <todbrown@roadrunner.com>; Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 22:30:42 -0400; Cam gear or dizzy, that is the question, at least as a start. As one or two folks have already said, you need to replace the dizzy to see if that cures the problem. That will tell you how to proceed.; /html/tigers/2012-03/msg00207.html (12,526 bytes)
27. Re: [Tigers] Timing deviates - advice needed (score: 1): Author: Gary Winblad <garywinblad@comcast.net>; Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 02:48:03 +0000 (UTC); It sounds like John has the answer (from experience).. but wait a minute, what is all that fuzz under the rubbing block on your points?? That doesn't look good to me, though I have never had an after; /html/tigers/2012-03/msg00208.html (13,862 bytes)
28. Re: [Tigers] Timing deviates - advice needed (score: 1): Author: "Smit, Theo" <Theo.Smit@dynastream.com>; Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 22:05:07 -0500; Gary, if you're really stuck I can throw my Mallory Unilite distributor in the mail, along with a set of plug wires... it will be there in a day or two. Just ship it back when you're done... That loo; /html/tigers/2012-03/msg00209.html (16,075 bytes)
29. Re: [Tigers] Timing deviates - advice needed (score: 1): Author: Larry Mayfield <drmayf@mayfco.com>; Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:07:20 -0700; Ron, yep, I agree. But the issue is not when or where the timing chain sprocket went from plastic to metal, but, rather to simply remove the timing cover and inspect it first hand. Arguing over the d; /html/tigers/2012-03/msg00210.html (16,905 bytes)
30. Re: [Tigers] Timing deviates - advice needed (score: 1): Author: Larry Mayfield <drmayf@mayfco.com>; Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:11:58 -0700; Gary, you do not need a dizzy from a Sunbeam Tiger. Any of the ford distributors from 1962 to about mid 70's or so with a points type system and on a small block should work just fine. They are all t; /html/tigers/2012-03/msg00212.html (14,458 bytes)
31. Re: [Tigers] Timing deviates - advice needed (score: 1): Author: " Ron Fraser" <rfraser@bluefrog.com>; Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 23:16:55 -0400; Gary Mallory uses a felt pad around the points rubbing block. The felt should not be bunching up under the rub block but it should be checked. I hope it is the picture; I don't see good lobe definiti; /html/tigers/2012-03/msg00214.html (15,170 bytes)
32. Re: [Tigers] Timing deviates - advice needed (score: 1): Author: "Gary Pointer" <gpointer@telusplanet.net>; Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 21:29:26 -0600; Thanks everyone again! I'm still a few weeks out from being able to get after it (no heat in the garage and snow still on the ground). As I said from the outset, just gathering the info and plan of a; /html/tigers/2012-03/msg00216.html (12,832 bytes)
33. [Tigers] Timing deviates - advice needed (score: 1): Author: <johnp@ciseast.com>; Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 08:00:01 -0400; Since the engine is a later model that originally had an EGR valve... I'm sure the EGR valve has been removed. But if it hasn't, be sure to disconnect the vacuum lead to it. It wouldn't jockey your t; /html/tigers/2012-03/msg00217.html (9,737 bytes)
34. Re: [Tigers] Timing deviates - advice needed (score: 1): Author: "Jerry Mo Christopherson" <JCMC2006@suddenlink.net>; Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:30:41 -0500; Gary Seeing the pictures; I would make sure that your primary wire (copper band going to the points), even though it has a sheathing on it is not touching the side of the dist. make sure there is a g; /html/tigers/2012-03/msg00219.html (16,086 bytes)
35. Re: [Tigers] Timing deviates - advice needed (score: 1): Author: " Ron Fraser" <rfraser@bluefrog.com>; Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 15:59:46 -0400; Jerry Somewhere out there on the web is an Axiom: Whenever you think your having a carb problem, before touching the carb first check the ignition system and timing. Ron Fraser A friend of mine with; /html/tigers/2012-03/msg00220.html (12,542 bytes)
36. Re: [Tigers] Timing deviates - advice needed (score: 1): Author: Pointers <gpointer@telusplanet.net>; Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:07:57 -0600; Re: degrees of movement: The 15 degrees of movement is distributor degrees (counter-clockwise, left). And to confirm, from it's resting place, the rotor can also be rotated 10 degrees in the opposite; /html/tigers/2012-03/msg00221.html (17,241 bytes)
37. Re: [Tigers] Timing deviates - advice needed (score: 1): Author: " Ron Fraser" <rfraser@bluefrog.com>; Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:03:18 -0400; Gary The Stock Ford distributor has no retard movement as you describe. I'm not familiar with the internals of the Mallory but I would investigate that first. You should try to find an exploded view; /html/tigers/2012-03/msg00228.html (12,545 bytes)
38. Re: [Tigers] Timing deviates - advice needed (score: 1): Author: "Jerry Mo Christopherson" <JCMC2006@suddenlink.net>; Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:08:48 -0500; Gary I would also agree with Ron the retard thing doesn't make any sense. Also the 15 degree is also too much mechanical advance, that's 30 degrees on the crank, normally 20 degrees or less is more t; /html/tigers/2012-03/msg00230.html (13,992 bytes)

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