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41. RE: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: rjohnson@friendlynet.com; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 12:25:18 -0500; Me too - already too many classes. 20 entrants at an event with almost 1100 competitors isn't enough for a new class to be considered, or for an old class to be retained. Roger; /html/autox/2000-09/msg01000.html (8,656 bytes)
42. RE: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: "Kelly, Katie" <kkelly@spss.com>; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 10:22:21 -0700; Dennis Grant writes... Is cutthroat bad? What is "out of hand?" Do you have any examples of this or are you projecting? Our (SFR's) OSP could be labeled as cutthroat. It's hard to imagine a VW Bug ta; /html/autox/2000-09/msg01006.html (9,097 bytes)
43. RE: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: pylon@pylon.cc; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 12:23:54 -0500; damn, I wish my Super beetle could do that! Dennis Grant writes... Is cutthroat bad? What is "out of hand?" Do you have any examples of this or are you projecting? Our (SFR's) OSP could be labeled as; /html/autox/2000-09/msg01007.html (9,270 bytes)
44. RE: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: dg50@daimlerchrysler.com; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:57:18 -0400; Only if it gets mean/nasty. Imagine someone building a Bug or Starlet using a lot of Indycar parts, carbon fiber, and other really expensive bits, and doing a lot of engineering work. Wind tunnels.; /html/autox/2000-09/msg01009.html (10,177 bytes)
45. Re: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: "Kent Rafferty" <gs96@sgi.net>; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:07:10 -0400; Based on Roger's criteria, we should eliminate the following classes: Street Prepared: DSP ASP, Prepared: BP, AP, FP, EP, DP Modified: DM, BM, EM, AM, FM Other: F125, SM That certainly will streamlin; /html/autox/2000-09/msg01010.html (9,361 bytes)
46. Re: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: "Brandon C. Fetch" <brandon.fetch@ey.com>; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:15:17 -0500; Based on Roger's criteria, we should eliminate the following classes: Street Prepared: DSP ASP, Prepared: BP, AP, FP, EP, DP Modified: DM, BM, EM, AM, FM Other: F125, SM That certainly will streamlin; /html/autox/2000-09/msg01012.html (9,114 bytes)
47. RE: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: "Jeff Lloyd" <Jeff@cyberconceptz.com>; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:40:54 -0400; I don't believe we should go this extreme, but limiting to 3-3 SP classes and 2 SM classes, combining 2 modified classes and 2 prepared I think Stock 1,2,3,4 SP 1,2,3 (4 if we retain a pony car class; /html/autox/2000-09/msg01014.html (9,120 bytes)
48. RE: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: "Isley, Jason C." <JIsley@cell1.com>; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:35:13 -0700; If you put up the cast TC will build it. What model BMW do you want to use.. ;) Jason "RX7 KLR" Isley jason.isley@alltel.com Only if it gets mean/nasty. Imagine someone building a Bug or Starlet usin; /html/autox/2000-09/msg01015.html (10,664 bytes)
49. Re: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: Bradley Lamont <lamont@mailhost.org>; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:35:09 -0500; Well, since I've already stepped on a bunch of toes, I might as well get the rest... At Nationals, we had 1097 drivers total: stock 464 43% SP 240 22% P 176 16% M 146 13% other (STS, SM, F125) 71 6%; /html/autox/2000-09/msg01016.html (9,614 bytes)
50. Re: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: "Rick Brown" <free2000@quixnet.net>; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:54:46 -0700; Your scenario seems to keep forgetting the two rules for OSP (or the "real" StreetMod, as CalClub has called our OSP class for many years before it was even a twinkle in your eye - hmmm, maybe we sh; /html/autox/2000-09/msg01018.html (9,940 bytes)
51. RE: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: "Isley, Jason C." <JIsley@cell1.com>; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:54:09 -0700; Here is a thought... Monday in Topeka there is nothing happening, so run the Supplemental class nationals Monday. They split into two groups half on north the other on south, then in the afternoon th; /html/autox/2000-09/msg01019.html (10,238 bytes)
52. Re: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: rjohnson@friendlynet.com; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:28:06 -0500; Sorry - small codicil. What I meant to say: Per the SII rules, open class entrants + ladies class entrants = combined numbers being the criteria for inclusion as a National Class. (4.7, page 61) That; /html/autox/2000-09/msg01020.html (10,196 bytes)
53. RE: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: "Moore, John" <jmoore@opentv.com>; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:45:34 -0500; So based on the current rules and even with increasing the number to 20 combined, shouldn't STS now get to be a full national class instead of being supplemental? We had 24 entrants show up in open a; /html/autox/2000-09/msg01023.html (11,786 bytes)
54. Re: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: Snapspinnr@aol.com; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:49:21 EDT; Don't forget that would drop all the ladies classes too. Cool that would get us down to about 15-20 classes. Is that too many for you? SW << Based on Roger's criteria, we should eliminate the followi; /html/autox/2000-09/msg01024.html (8,492 bytes)
55. Re: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: "Dave Whitworth" <dave@wcsllc.net>; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:01:01 -0500; 2 classes : People named Roger Johnson (2 entrants) and the rest of us :) Seriously, the current # of classes seems very close to the correct number. Within reason, what pluses are there to only havi; /html/autox/2000-09/msg01026.html (10,484 bytes)
56. Re: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: "Jay Mitchell" <jemitchell@compuserve.com>; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:11:20 -0500; entrants National Whew. I'm glad you clarified that. Thanks. even better future If there are 25 open classes and 1000 entries (round numbers to save some long division), the average class entry level; /html/autox/2000-09/msg01028.html (9,275 bytes)
57. RE: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: miket <miket@interaccess.com>; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 00 15:53:18 -0500; Ouch!! Even if all classes had exactly 12 entries (which is quite improbable - I'll most likely win the Lotto a few hundred times before this happens), that would imply that 2400 people attend nation; /html/autox/2000-09/msg01029.html (8,406 bytes)
58. Re: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: rjohnson@friendlynet.com; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 17:03:16 -0500; Clearly, we are talking about degrees in this stuff: Perhaps all would agree that 1 entrant in a class at the National Championship, on a consistent basis, is too few entries to warrant a class. 150; /html/autox/2000-09/msg01030.html (12,082 bytes)
59. RE: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: rjohnson@friendlynet.com; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 17:07:02 -0500; Yep - parallel Ladies Classes have Champions, too. You sexist. <ggggg> Roger; /html/autox/2000-09/msg01031.html (8,543 bytes)
60. Re: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: Mari L Clements <mrndr2@juno.com>; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 17:29:29 -0700; On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:40:54 -0400 "Jeff Lloyd" <Jeff@cyberconceptz.com> about Huh? CP is gone in your revamping? CP, the only one of the prepared classes to make Roger's criteria? Jeff, this is why; /html/autox/2000-09/msg01033.html (8,596 bytes)

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