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Re: [TR] Whitelist email to prevent mssg being deemed spam, was: TR list

To: "Blake J. Discher" <bdischer.lists@blakedischer.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] Whitelist email to prevent mssg being deemed spam, was: TR list traffic
From: Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 8 May 2023 17:58:19 -0500
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Thanks for that, Blake.  I've not created rules in Gmail before -- but
perhaps now our forum friend Dave Massey won't automatically be sent to
spam, despite being in my address book!  Cross your fingers, Dave... :)

On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 5:43=E2=80=AFPM Blake J. Discher <
bdischer.lists@blakedischer.com> wrote:

> First, congratulations Mark... there should also be an "Ironman" award fo=
r
> your efforts over the years to keep the hamsters in the wheel well-fed an=
d
> running at full speed.  I know what it takes, so kudos!
>
> I thought I'd address the issue of list emails going into spam folders
> that some have mentioned.  Many already know this, but maybe some will be
> helped.
>
> Most email clients (Outlook, Google, Thunderbird) will have a way to
> "whitelist" an email address so that your client doesn't deem an incoming
> email as spam.  Because Google is  notoriously bad at discerning spam fro=
m
> ham <https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SPAMASSASSIN/Ham>, here
> is the procedure in Gmail:
> https://www.whitelist.guide/gmail/
>
> If you use a different client, a Google search will lead you to the
> procedure.
>
> All of that being said, some internet providers (AT&T, Verizon, etc) do
> spam detection at server level before your client (reader) even gets the
> message.  (Although Google is not technically an internet provider, their
> whitelisting method mirrors that of one.)  In that instance you will need
> to use the provider's control panel to add email addresses to your
> whitelist.
>
> Both methods work, 'client level' is usually simpler though.
>
> All the best,
> Blake Discher
> VTR Webmaster
>
>
>
> On 5/8/23 7:35 AM, Hoyt Duff wrote:
>
> Some of the emails wind up in my SPAM folder which is due, I am told,
> to a misconfiguration of the maillist server that the owner will not
> correct, not some nefarious plot of Google, this told to me from
> UNIX/Linux IT professionals. I have no way to verify this, but a
> substantial amount of messages do get shuttled to my SPAM folder, even
> after marking them consistently as NOT SPAM.
>
> As to participation, I am one of the "lurkers" who has been subscribed
> since circa 2000, but have not been active since I have not been
> working on any of my TR2/3s.
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Tha=
nks for that, Blake.=C2=A0 I&#39;ve not created rules in Gmail before -- bu=
t perhaps now our forum friend Dave Massey won&#39;t automatically=C2=A0be =
sent to spam, despite being in my address book!=C2=A0 Cross your fingers, D=
ave... :)</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 5:43=E2=80=AFPM Blake J. Discher &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:bdischer.lists@blakedischer.com";>bdischer.lists@blakedis=
cher.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-le=
ft:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div>
    <font face=3D"Avenir">First, congratulations Mark... there should also
      be an &quot;Ironman&quot; award for your efforts over the years to ke=
ep the
      hamsters in the wheel well-fed and running at full speed.=C2=A0 I kno=
w
      what it takes, so kudos!<br>
      <br>
      I thought I&#39;d address the issue of list emails going into spam
      folders that some have mentioned.=C2=A0 Many already know this, but
      maybe some will be helped.<br>
      <br>
      Most email clients (Outlook, Google, Thunderbird) will have a way
      to &quot;whitelist&quot; an email address so that your client doesn&#=
39;t deem
      an incoming email as spam.=C2=A0 Because Google is=C2=A0 notoriously =
bad at
      discerning spam from <a href=3D"https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/d=
isplay/SPAMASSASSIN/Ham" target=3D"_blank">ham</a>,
      here is the procedure in Gmail:<br>
      <a href=3D"https://www.whitelist.guide/gmail/"; target=3D"_blank">http=
s://www.whitelist.guide/gmail/</a><br>
      <br>
      If you use a different client, a Google search will lead you to
      the procedure.<br>
      <br>
      All of that being said, some internet providers (AT&amp;T,
      Verizon, etc) do spam detection at server level before your client
      (reader) even gets the message.=C2=A0 (Although Google is not
      technically an internet provider, their whitelisting method
      mirrors that of one.)=C2=A0 In that instance you will need to use the
      provider&#39;s control panel to add email addresses to your whitelist=
.<br>
      <br>
      Both methods work, &#39;client level&#39; is usually simpler though.<=
br>
      <br>
      All the best,<br>
      Blake Discher<br>
      VTR Webmaster<br>
      <br>
      <br>
    </font><br>
    <div>On 5/8/23 7:35 AM, Hoyt Duff wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      <pre>Some of the emails wind up in my SPAM folder which is due, I am =
told,
to a misconfiguration of the maillist server that the owner will not
correct, not some nefarious plot of Google, this told to me from
UNIX/Linux IT professionals. I have no way to verify this, but a
substantial amount of messages do get shuttled to my SPAM folder, even
after marking them consistently as NOT SPAM.

As to participation, I am one of the &quot;lurkers&quot; who has been subsc=
ribed
since circa 2000, but have not been active since I have not been
working on any of my TR2/3s.

</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
  </div>

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