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Subject: Re: [TR] Whitelist email to prevent mssg being deemed spam, was: TR list traffic
From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
Date: Tue, 9 May 2023 16:19:42 +0000 (UTC)
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 I dunno, sometimes I think that is where I belong.=C2=A0 ;-)
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-----Original Message-----
From: Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com>
To: Blake J. Discher <bdischer.lists@blakedischer.com>
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, May 8, 2023 5:58 pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Whitelist email to prevent mssg being deemed spam, was: T=
R list traffic

Thanks for that, Blake.=C2=A0 I've not created rules in Gmail before -- but=
 perhaps now our forum friend Dave Massey won't automatically=C2=A0be sent =
to spam, despite being in my address book!=C2=A0 Cross your fingers, Dave..=
. :)
On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 5:43=E2=80=AFPM Blake J. Discher <bdischer.lists@bla=
kedischer.com> wrote:

  First, congratulations Mark... there should also be an "Ironman" award fo=
r your efforts over the years to keep the hamsters in the wheel well-fed an=
d running at full speed.=C2=A0 I know what it takes, so kudos!
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 I thought I'd address the issue of list emails going into spam folders tha=
t some have mentioned.=C2=A0 Many already know this, but maybe some will be=
 helped.
=20
 Most email clients (Outlook, Google, Thunderbird) will have a way to "whit=
elist" an email address so that your client doesn't deem an incoming email =
as spam.=C2=A0 Because Google is=C2=A0 notoriously bad at discerning spam f=
rom ham, here is the procedure in Gmail:
 https://www.whitelist.guide/gmail/
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 If you use a different client, a Google search will lead you to the proced=
ure.
=20
 All of that being said, some internet providers (AT&T, Verizon, etc) do sp=
am detection at server level before your client (reader) even gets the mess=
age.=C2=A0 (Although Google is not technically an internet provider, their =
whitelisting method mirrors that of one.)=C2=A0 In that instance you will n=
eed to use the provider's control panel to add email addresses to your whit=
elist.
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 Both methods work, 'client level' is usually simpler though.
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 All the best,
 Blake Discher
 VTR Webmaster
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 On 5/8/23 7:35 AM, Hoyt Duff wrote:
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 Some of the emails wind up in my SPAM folder which is due, I am told,
to a misconfiguration of the maillist server that the owner will not
correct, not some nefarious plot of Google, this told to me from
UNIX/Linux IT professionals. I have no way to verify this, but a
substantial amount of messages do get shuttled to my SPAM folder, even
after marking them consistently as NOT SPAM.

As to participation, I am one of the "lurkers" who has been subscribed
since circa 2000, but have not been active since I have not been
working on any of my TR2/3s.

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 size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Don Hiscock &lt;don.hiscock@gmail.com&gt;<br>
To: Blake J. Discher &lt;bdischer.lists@blakedischer.com&gt;<br>
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net<br>
Sent: Mon, May 8, 2023 5:58 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [TR] Whitelist email to prevent mssg being deemed spam, was: T=
R list traffic<br>
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<div style=3D"font-size:small;" class=3D"yiv7829737294gmail_default">Thanks=
 for that, Blake.&nbsp; I've not created rules in Gmail before -- but perha=
ps now our forum friend Dave Massey won't automatically&nbsp;be sent to spa=
m, despite being in my address book!&nbsp; Cross your fingers, Dave... :)</=
div>
</div>
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<div id=3D"yiv7829737294yqt58881" class=3D"yiv7829737294yqt0322004348">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv7829737294gmail_attr">On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 5=
:43=E2=80=AFPM Blake J. Discher &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer"=
 shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:bdischer.lists@blakedischer.com"; target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:bdischer.lists@blakedischer.com";>bdischer.lists@=
blakedischer.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class=3D"yiv7829737294gmail_quote">
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    <font face=3D"Avenir">First, congratulations Mark... there should also
      be an "Ironman" award for your efforts over the years to keep the
      hamsters in the wheel well-fed and running at full speed.&nbsp; I kno=
w
      what it takes, so kudos!<br clear=3D"none">
      <br clear=3D"none">
      I thought I'd address the issue of list emails going into spam
      folders that some have mentioned.&nbsp; Many already know this, but
      maybe some will be helped.<br clear=3D"none">
      <br clear=3D"none">
      Most email clients (Outlook, Google, Thunderbird) will have a way
      to "whitelist" an email address so that your client doesn't deem
      an incoming email as spam.&nbsp; Because Google is&nbsp; notoriously =
bad at
      discerning spam from <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D=
"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/displa=
y/SPAMASSASSIN/Ham">ham</a>,
      here is the procedure in Gmail:<br clear=3D"none">
      <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_bla=
nk" href=3D"https://www.whitelist.guide/gmail/";>https://www.whitelist.guide=
/gmail/</a><br clear=3D"none">
      <br clear=3D"none">
      If you use a different client, a Google search will lead you to
      the procedure.<br clear=3D"none">
      <br clear=3D"none">
      All of that being said, some internet providers (AT&amp;T,
      Verizon, etc) do spam detection at server level before your client
      (reader) even gets the message.&nbsp; (Although Google is not
      technically an internet provider, their whitelisting method
      mirrors that of one.)&nbsp; In that instance you will need to use the
      provider's control panel to add email addresses to your whitelist.<br=
 clear=3D"none">
      <br clear=3D"none">
      Both methods work, 'client level' is usually simpler though.<br clear=
=3D"none">
      <br clear=3D"none">
      All the best,<br clear=3D"none">
      Blake Discher<br clear=3D"none">
      VTR Webmaster<br clear=3D"none">
      <br clear=3D"none">
      <br clear=3D"none">
    </font><br clear=3D"none">
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<div>On 5/8/23 7:35 AM, Hoyt Duff wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>

    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      <pre>Some of the emails wind up in my SPAM folder which is due, I am =
told,
to a misconfiguration of the maillist server that the owner will not
correct, not some nefarious plot of Google, this told to me from
UNIX/Linux IT professionals. I have no way to verify this, but a
substantial amount of messages do get shuttled to my SPAM folder, even
after marking them consistently as NOT SPAM.

As to participation, I am one of the "lurkers" who has been subscribed
since circa 2000, but have not been active since I have not been
working on any of my TR2/3s.

</pre>
    </blockquote>
    <br clear=3D"none">
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