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Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk

To: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk
From: Greg Lemon <grglmn@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2022 11:22:52 -0600
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Will echo what Dave said, I will tackle about anything, but won't do
differentials, nor do I have anybody local I trust to do it.  The
differentials were generally pretty quiet when new, but from what I have
read and experienced a rebuilt may or may not whine a little at certain
speeds, pretty hit or miss, the one I replaced was rebuilt and made a lot
of noise.  Plus the Nissan unit was designed to take much higher torque and
hp than the Triumph diff, plus limited slip (I autocross too).

I don't think the diff swap changes the character of the car at all (kind
of like pertronix, reversible, doesn't really change the car, just modern
and pretty bulletproof) I hear a little more engine noise and a little less
differential, that is a good thing.

I converted my existing transmission to overdrive rather than going with
the five speed conversion because I like the whole Triumph driving
experience too.

Ultimately, you own your car, do what you want with it.

Greg Lemon
TR250

On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 10:43 AM dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:

> The TR6 rebuild requires special tools, and the cost of a rebuild was not
> far from the cost of replacing it.
>
>
>
> Why replace with a Japanese part?  Quality, cost, plus limited slip.  We
> autocross this thing so that=E2=80=99s a valuable upgrade.
>
>
>
> I agree in principle with your comment.  I like the car to be =E2=80=9Cin=
 keeping=E2=80=9D
> with the original, at least period upgrades.  I=E2=80=99m not a fan of, f=
or
> example, modern engine swaps.  You could, for example, say the same about
> wheels.  Those original wheels are poor quality, and refurbishing them is
> more expensive than replacing them.  Same thing with the Nissan diff; muc=
h
> better quality and performance at a similar cost so that makes sense.
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *TeriAnn
> J. Wakeman
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:10 AM
> *To:* triumphs@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk
>
>
>
> On 1/27/22 7:41 AM, dave northrup wrote:
>
> We put a Nissan Q45 limited slip diff in our TR6.  Extremely quiet and
> reliable.  The old diff was howling so we had to do something!
>
> Had to do something? And you just couldn't rebuild it with new ring &
> pinion & bearings?????
>
> In the late 80s my TR3's diff was screaming. The Ring & Pinion gears had
> worn to the point where the gears were sharply pointed. A rebuild with ne=
w
> gears left it quiet.  A few years later British Frame & Engine had a sale
> on limited slips that fit the TR3, so my 3 now has limited slip diff insi=
de
> the TR3 axle housing. All without going to Japanese assembly swaps. I
> suspect your TR6's diff was quiet and reliable for decades before it wore
> out. If an assembly provides good decades long service before it wears ou=
t,
> why not rebuild it to new spec instead of running out and replacing it wi=
th
> a non-Triumph assemblies?
>
>  TeriAnn
>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Will echo what Dave said, I will tackle about anything, b=
ut won&#39;t do differentials, nor do I have anybody local I trust to do it=
.=C2=A0 The differentials were generally pretty quiet when new, but from wh=
at I have read and experienced a rebuilt may or may not whine a little at c=
ertain speeds, pretty hit or miss, the one I replaced was rebuilt and made =
a lot of noise.=C2=A0 Plus the Nissan unit was designed to take much higher=
 torque and hp than the Triumph diff, plus limited slip (I autocross too).<=
div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I don&#39;t think the diff swa=
p changes the character of the car at all (kind of like pertronix, reversib=
le, doesn&#39;t really change the car, just modern and pretty bulletproof) =
I hear a little more engine noise and a little less differential, that is a=
 good thing.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"=
>I converted my existing transmission to overdrive rather than going with t=
he five speed conversion because I like the whole Triumph driving experienc=
e too.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Ultimately, you o=
wn your car, do what you want with it.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><=
br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Greg Lemon</div><div dir=3D"auto">TR250</div></d=
iv><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On =
Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 10:43 AM dave northrup &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@rantee=
r.com">dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1=
ex">





<div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" style=3D"word-wrap:break=
-word">
<div class=3D"m_965467113181523091WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The TR6 rebuild requires special tools, and the cost=
 of a rebuild was not far from the cost of replacing it.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Why replace with a Japanese part?=C2=A0 Quality, cos=
t, plus limited slip.=C2=A0 We autocross this thing so that=E2=80=99s a val=
uable upgrade.=C2=A0
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I agree in principle with your comment.=C2=A0 I like=
 the car to be =E2=80=9Cin keeping=E2=80=9D with the original, at least per=
iod upgrades.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m not a fan of, for example, modern engine sw=
aps.=C2=A0 You could, for example, say the same about wheels.=C2=A0 Those o=
riginal
 wheels are poor quality, and refurbishing them is more expensive than repl=
acing them.=C2=A0 Same thing with the Nissan diff; much better quality and =
performance at a similar cost so that makes sense.
<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs=
-bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">triumphs-boun=
ces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of
</b>TeriAnn J. Wakeman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 27, 2022 10:10 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"noreferrer">triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] [6pack] Rear end clunk<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 1/27/22 7:41 AM, dave northrup wrote:<u></u><u></=
u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">We put a Nissan Q45 limited slip diff in our TR6.=C2=
=A0 Extremely quiet and reliable.=C2=A0 The old diff was howling so we had =
to do something!<u></u><u></u></p>
</blockquote>
<p>Had to do something? And you just couldn&#39;t rebuild it with new ring =
&amp; pinion &amp; bearings?????<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>In the late 80s my TR3&#39;s diff was screaming. The Ring &amp; Pinion g=
ears had worn to the point where the gears were sharply pointed. A rebuild =
with new gears left it quiet.=C2=A0 A few years later British Frame &amp; E=
ngine had a sale on limited slips that fit the TR3,
 so my 3 now has limited slip diff inside the TR3 axle housing. All without=
 going to Japanese assembly swaps. I suspect your TR6&#39;s diff was quiet =
and reliable for decades before it wore out. If an assembly provides good d=
ecades long service before it wears
 out, why not rebuild it to new spec instead of running out and replacing i=
t with a non-Triumph assemblies?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>=C2=A0TeriAnn<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
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