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Re: [TR] [NET] Incantation

To: Dave Connitt <dconnitt@fuse.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] [NET] Incantation
From: David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2021 17:20:54 -0500
Cc: TR3 Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>, PeterAra@msn.com, New England Triumphs <net@newenglandtriumphs.org>, Philip Gott <vfracing@aol.com>
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Thanks, David. I'll give that a try. I haven't tried  to move the yoke
any while pushing in on the tranny but I'll try doing that while also
giving the guide-bolt a try.I don't want to be putting too much
stress on the flange of a cast aluminum bell housing though...

Dave

On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 5:12 PM Dave Connitt <dconnitt@fuse.net> wrote:

> Dave,
> Here is what I have done to install my transmission and it can be done by
> yourself.
> 1. From the rear of the engine, remove that top center stud that bolts th=
e
> transmission to the block. Take it to your local hardware store and buy t=
he
> longest bolt you can find in that thread size.
> 2.  Cut the head off the long bolt you just bought and round that end so
> you end up with a stud and screw that into that upper center hole in the
> block.
> 3. Position the transmission so you can slide ii on to that stud and push
> it forward. The transmission input shaft will be lined up with the clutch
> disk and you should just have to rotate the driveshaft yoke to send it ho=
me.
> Dave Connitt
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 11, 2021, at 4:56 PM, David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com> wrote=
:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> Thanks for the feedback thus far, gentlemen.
>
> My effort only included the transmission. I didn't service or
> disassemble the clutch at all. I only replaced the throw-out
> bearing, the sleeve for the TO bearing, the fork and pin and
> the cross-shaft bushings. The output  shaft will now not
> turn when in gear, signifying to me that the input shaft has
> now aligned with the splines in the clutch.
>
> Dave
>
> On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 4:41 PM Philip Gott <vfracing@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Dave;
>> We=E2=80=99ve found that standing on your head while you turn the tail s=
haft a
>> little bit at a time  with the transmission in gear helps to align the
>> splines on the input shaft with the clutch. (You did first align the clu=
tch
>> with the pilot bearing in the end of the crankshaft, right? If you took =
it
>> apart and did not touch the clutch, you=E2=80=99re ok on this already. )=
 also try
>> rotating the transmission about the input shaft axis a bit. That helps t=
o
>> align the splines.
>> Good luck!
>> Phil G
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 11, 2021, at 4:32 PM, David Friedlander via NET <
>> net@newenglandtriumphs.org> wrote:
>>
>> =EF=BB=BF
>> Greetings, listers!
>>
>> I have now replaced the throwout bearing and sleeve on my OD transmissio=
n
>> and am trying to re-mate it with the engine. It's been several days of
>> jacking,
>> maneuvering and pushing the tranny, to no avail. One won't get closer
>> than an
>> inch to an inch-and-a-half to the other. Holes in the flanges of both
>> line up,
>> the engine and transmission seem to be on the same plane but that's as
>> far
>> as it goes.
>>
>> On what page of the manual is the incantation to speak over this effort?
>> Must be spoken with a Limey accent, right?  :- )
>>
>> Dave
>> '59 TR3A
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099">Thanks, David. I&#39;ll giv=
e that a try. I haven&#39;t=C2=A0tried=C2=A0 to move the yoke=C2=A0</div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:large;color:#000099">any while pushing in on the tranny but I&#39;l=
l try doing that while also=C2=A0</div><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,153);fo=
nt-family:&quot;comic sans ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large">giving the =
guide-bolt a try.I don&#39;t want to be putting too much=C2=A0</span><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;fo=
nt-size:large;color:#000099">stress on the flange of a cast aluminum bell h=
ousing though...</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:com=
ic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:#000099"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:=
large;color:#000099">Dave</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div di=
r=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 5:12 PM Dave Connitt=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dconnitt@fuse.net";>dconnitt@fuse.net</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto=
">Dave,<div>Here is what I have done to install my transmission and it can =
be done by yourself.=C2=A0</div><div>1. From the rear of the engine, remove=
 that top center stud that bolts the transmission to the block. Take it to =
your local hardware store and buy the longest bolt you can find in that thr=
ead size.=C2=A0</div><div>2.=C2=A0 Cut the head off the long bolt you just =
bought and round that end so you end up with a stud and screw that into tha=
t upper center hole in the block.</div><div>3. Position the transmission so=
 you can slide ii on to that stud and push it forward. The transmission inp=
ut shaft will be lined up with the clutch disk and you should just have to =
rotate the driveshaft yoke to send it home.</div><div>Dave Connitt=C2=A0</d=
iv><div><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Nov 11, 2021, at 4:56 PM, David Friedlander &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:forzion7@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">forzion7@gmail.co=
m</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-family:&quot;comic sans ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(=
0,0,153)">Thanks for the feedback thus far, gentlemen.</div><div class=3D"g=
mail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans ms&quot;,sans-serif;fon=
t-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;co=
lor:rgb(0,0,153)">My effort only included the transmission. I didn&#39;t se=
rvice or=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot=
;comic sans ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">disasse=
mble the clutch at all. I only replaced the throw-out=C2=A0</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans ms&quot;,sans-seri=
f;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">bearing, the sleeve for the TO bearin=
g, the fork and pin and=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fo=
nt-family:&quot;comic sans ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,=
0,153)">the cross-shaft bushings. The output=C2=A0

shaft will now not=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:&quot;comic sans ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153=
)">turn when in=C2=A0gear, signifying to me that the=C2=A0input shaft has=
=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic s=
ans ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">now aligned wit=
h the splines in the clutch.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:&quot;comic sans ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0=
,153)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;co=
mic sans ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">Dave</div>=
</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">=
On Thu, Nov 11, 2021 at 4:41 PM Philip Gott &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:vfracing@=
aol.com" target=3D"_blank">vfracing@aol.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1p=
x solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Dave;<div>We=
=E2=80=99ve found that standing on your head while you turn the tail shaft =
a little bit at a time =C2=A0with the transmission in gear helps to align t=
he splines on the input shaft with the clutch. (You did first align the clu=
tch with the pilot bearing in the end of the crankshaft, right? If you took=
 it apart and did not touch the clutch, you=E2=80=99re ok on this already. =
) also try rotating the transmission about the input shaft axis a bit. That=
 helps to align the splines.</div><div>Good luck!</div><div>Phil G<br><br><=
div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite">On Nov 11, 2021, at 4:32 PM, David Friedlander via NET &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:net@newenglandtriumphs.org"; target=3D"_blank">net@newengland=
triumphs.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default=
" style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large=
;color:rgb(0,0,153)">Greetings, listers!</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;c=
olor:rgb(0,0,153)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-fam=
ily:&quot;comic sans ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)=
">I have now replaced the throwout bearing and sleeve on my OD transmission=
=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic s=
ans ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">and am trying t=
o re-mate it with the engine. It&#39;s been several days of jacking,</div><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans ms&quot;,=
sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">maneuvering and pushing the=
=C2=A0tranny, to no avail. One won&#39;t get closer than an=C2=A0</div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans ms&quot;,san=
s-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">inch to an inch-and-a-half to t=
he other. Holes in the flanges of both line up,=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans ms&quot;,sans-serif;font=
-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">the engine and transmission seem to be on t=
he same plane but that&#39;s as far=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default"=
 style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;=
color:rgb(0,0,153)">as it goes.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" sty=
le=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;colo=
r:rgb(0,0,153)"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family=
:&quot;comic sans ms&quot;,sans-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">O=
n what page of the manual is the incantation to speak over this effort?=C2=
=A0=C2=A0<br>Must be spoken with a Limey accent, right?=C2=A0 :- )</div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans ms&quot;,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)"><br>Dave</div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"font-family:&quot;comic sans ms&quot;,sans-serif;font=
-size:large;color:rgb(0,0,153)">&#39;59 TR3A</div></div>
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